Ham

I dunno.. it's just a thought. Nothing else seems to get their REAL attention.. all they seem to be willing to offer are little one on one damage control sessions. I've seen loving exhortation, pleading, begging, brow-beating.. and.. nada. The national ham organization may have it's internal little squabbles at times.. but if they did half of this kinda nonsense, my local club would probably cancel affiliation..

I dunno.. there are quite a few "fellowships" that claim affiliation with the group. If I ran one, I'd send a letter, not email, through the U.S. postal service, requesting that my name be removed from the list.. The sad thing I think, is that a lot of them probably don't have a clue of what's going on.. it's like, der vey ministry, all over again..

Any other thoughts or comments about the ebook yet? they have a half a dozen or more books online.. I thought this one was about the best.

soo.. does anybody know? What is der gearo "fellowship" like? Are the "leadership" meetings like a scene out of an "old codgers's" home, or "grumpy old men", where the residents take to beating each other with canes, and for the life of them, they can't remember who started the argument? "eeeeeehhh, you traitorous, treacherous, possessed.. um. Ummmm... uhh.. " "aww, forget it.."

Well.. for a bag of pecans, it's a deal..

hmm. That's a thought. For a limited time, and the right kind of schmmozing not to mention "contributions".. I think we can get the Great Squirrel to interrupt his rather "hectic" fall schedule..

Need you ask? It's a "suggestion".. but we all know a suggestion is tantamount to a command. Those aren't rubber bands. They are The Prevailing Verd and Ice over Der Vorld bands. Embossed on each, "The Word of Squirrel is the Will of Squirrel".

OK "brotha".. I'm from WV.. I warned my daughters.. watch out for the guy that's giving away furs. Ya know.. "darlin.. if you marry up with me, I'll give you all the furs you'da ever want. You can have a coal fur, a wood fur.."

Hey.. no problemo! The Squirrel feels most perfectly safe here. Most of his crew probably can't remember where they left their dentures anyway..

Our core is light. If anything.. we all own each other.. maybe not in a practical sense, in this life. The Beatles sung about something like that.. I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together. and then the sun comes up, and the day job has it's demands..

Happy Thanksgiving to you too, Paw, and to all those of the cafe.

"There were Giants in those days.."

even pets can get possessed, too.

Yep. Either way it would be really bad.. "they" had a habit of exercising supposed authority over those who didn't really have any other place to go.. whole families were set out in the street from corps or staff at times. No savings, no place to go.

Imagine going through this kinda "stuff" without parents or any other possible kind of support or help at the time..

I'd like to know what they consider to be their greatest resource in the organization. what makes it "tick".. what makes it really work. Or SUPPOSEDLY work. Whadya think JL?

Who is John Lynn? I'm beginning to think that he really doesn't want us to really know.

"outreach to the Eskimo. " Join the jetset, and the pace setters. Wanted: a few young, energetic, exuberant and motivated individuals. Must be young, healthy, and have a full set of teeth, personal transportation, and MONEY, who are willing to travel to exotic places. We offer a world exclusive set of icemakers for eskimos. Every home, or igloo will be graced by the presence of one, or preferably more of these finely, accurately constructed appliances. Each comes with an unconditional warranty, that for the life, or less than life of the user, the user is entitled to all the ice he or she should ever want. Join the select few, and garner benefits: 1. You will be so "blessed" to meet the designing engineer, or a close facimile thereof, and smother him (her?) with lavish praise and a minimum of fifteen percent of the proceeds from your snow shovelling job. 2. You will get the golden "opportunity" to replace those who went before, and have not shown by continual "believing action", that they are worthy to receive the precious spittle of the "maker". 3. You will enjoy the warm "fellowship" of the likeminded, unless they become wretched and unproductive. 4. As a representative, you will soon be entitled to all the ice that your heart can desire. To expedite your enrollment process, send your qualifications, proof of income, copies of all recent bank statments, copy of the title of your vehicle (no liens on title are acceptable) and doctor's and dentist's report on the state of your health and full set of dental xrays. offer and guarantee only valid at or above the northern 78th parallel, or below the southern 78th parallel, at and until such time as the polar caps shall melt, due to natural earth warming effects or otherwise

Few have been able to sort it all out prior to leaving the establishment. With one stupid doctrine or edict after another, I didn't have time to sort the first one out before the next one hit.. we weren't supposed to think, or sort it out.. that was the whole idea behind "implict obedience", was it not?

maybe he's playing the "devil's" advocate.

"call me" he says.. the guy who was at one time in charge of a program, practically "training" people how to sell ice makers to penguins in the antarctic.. CALL ME?? "now ham, we oughter agree on the big T truth.. nothings broken. You've got all the ice you ever could use in one lifetime, do you not?" You've gotta be kidding..

I really think they were looking for people who could sell solar powered icemakers in the heart of Antarctica.. "field support" issues are pretty easy after the sale though.. "whadly mean it doesn't work?? You have all the ice you could ever want.."

I can understand a LITTLE pressure, if your day job demands that you sell widgets to the general public, for a fair profit.. but, to be required to SELL to merely have the "priviledge" to belong to and contribute financially to a CHURH? Before a person says, "nobody ever demanded it of ME..", I would think that perhaps it is maybe because they didn't have to. Maybe the person just kept producing, kept bringing friends, coworkers, etc.. to the little meetings. loy labeled people who couldn't "produce" as those harboring evil, "unproductive evil" dross.. possessed. Not "going anywhere" in "gawd's" ministry. I couldn't sell loy's class if my life depended on it.. and I wasn't "in" very much longer past that. "we KNOW something is wrong with you, spill your guts.." looking back now, what was wrong, I could not sell an unsellable product.

What I wonder is.. if it was so great, why for the most part did pfal require extraordinary methods to sell it? if it really sold itself, vic shoulda just dropped a sample on Times Square, and merely waited for the world to beat a path to his door. Behind the scenes, in more than one "coordinator's" meetings, campaigns were scheduled.. witnessing "techniques" were finely honed.. "follow up" procedures were strictly adhered to.. classes were PLANNED. Not that I think planning was such a bad thing.. but see what happens when the branch fails to produce a couple of classes. Not too pleasant when all who shows up to a "public explanation" are grads from long ago. then there's a whole "leadership program".. basically designed to SELL the class, SELL the ministry. More motivation techniques, more "tricks of the trade". no pressure there. Go lightbearers.. fail to produce a class? No problem.. just jump off a bridge on the way back to campus. OH.. the guys who ran a lot of that kind of training, some started their own brand of der vey, didn't they..

seems these questions DWBH ask have little to do with jl's personal life..