Ham

My, what an "old" thread.. I chose "Hammeroni" mainly because I'm a ham radio operator. That was one of the little steps away from TWI.. in 1993, I "showed up" (walk ins welcome) at a ham radio testing session.. so I walked out with a ham technician license.. and affiliation with a whole group of people that didn't have anything to do with how many classes you'd been through.. one of the dreaded "devilish" civic organizations loy warned us about. :) The "Mr." only designates me of the male kind. Oh yes.. this ham made DXCC CW this year. Well, I finally submitted evidence of making at least one hundred morse code contacts with hams in other countries. I'm still a "newbie" at it.. some have over 350 contacts- that's stations in 350 countries. Some of them are very hard to come by..

well.. what can you say. Big cults start from little ones.. so do big fish in the sea.. they were someone's "baby" once.

Life right now.. is too busy.. but I always have time for friends, when they have time for me.. :)

I was wondering when you would, George.. if this isn't the right place, what venue does he feel is "appropriate"? I can only think, in his mind, no "public" venue will treat him "nicely". Along with the rest of the higher ups. If I were him.. I'd still ask myself a few questions.. The Graesers were at least at one time very very close friends.. with him, and the Schoenheits as well.. "committed" to da word of CES as strongly as he was. They were at least once like-minded. What happened? Where did the "commitment" go, the "friendship"? friends don't exactly take friends to court, at least LIGHTLY. It's easy to just blame the devil for something like this. I think it's more along the lines of being in "biblical denial". I wonder if he's even considered looking at all of this from a "five senses" perspective..

Well, it DOES look like something I'd try..

from your article, Bumpy: "swarthier"? Thanks.. I finally got what Kesey was alluding to about the cornstarch.. but the parallels are rather interesting. They beat the snot out of each other with prophecies and religious inuendo and some maybe not entirely false accusation, and then they blame the devil for tearing their organization apart? "see, we all gotta band together on the big T truth.. the "truth" itself is at stake here.. we've got the bruises to prove it.." sheesh.

I think that's the "learning curve" JS was referring to.. a curve of destruction. "well, mistakes were made.." pretty casual disregard of human life, no?

Thanks DWBH. Interesting. What I wonder though is.. I didn't think there was exactly a "learning curve" that lasts from late adolescence into late adulthood when it comes to the manifestations.. supposed to be like "easy as falling off a log backwards".Learning curve perhaps, but I wouldn't exactly call it "normal". It all seems to go back to their little book.. The little book appears to be "untouchable" Maybe it really is time for all the players in the CES fiasco to turn in their chips..

Marlene Deitrich? I dunno. But if that's what you really look like, Oldies.. will you marry me?

Some people just can't be happy unless they are in some kind of fight.

unless one is still numb from some of loy's tongue lashings.. I dunno.. some of us thought that was "normal" "confrontation" for a while.. not anymore for me at least.

Yeah. That's what I was alluding to. Imagine.. she's trying (I'll give her some benefit of the doubt here) to raise children with some "normality" in a house of insanity.. loy's, not to mention her own.. even if they had some kinda "agreement".. it had to hurt.. not to mention her own rumored proclivities.. had to cut the other way.. was she "happy"? maybe looked like it, with enough Botox.. I really think if she found people that were happy in relationships, that there was something wrong with them.. can't say 100 percent for her, but the last branch guy's wife was like this. Couldn't figure out why anybody else could be "happy". If SHE couldn't be happy, by God, nobody else was going to be..

well, I think it makes the moderators job easier. When the posts stray into the relm of vulgarity, it's pretty clear cut. I can take a few insults.. a lot of them, I'd agree with anyway.. vulgarity won't nulify an honest observation..

Or, maybe it was just a mock of bumbling, and a voice of offense. Or, was it an offensive mock, and a .. or maybe.. honestly though, I ususally chalk it up to a lack of education. Kinda like loy's rants.. if you can't get through to "them".. just swear like there's no tomorrow. But it does go to show.. the "get over it" crowd often has a thinner skin than a lot of others here.. looks like they bleed just like the rest of us.. welcome to humanity..

I wonder how much she was speaking from personal experience.

I missed the loyster's version of the sex class.. amazing though, how people who's definition of proper arrangement and deliberate decision is "I'll let you do whatever you want if you let me do whatever I want.." were sought out for their "wise counsel". I wonder what they thought when they looked in the mirror. Maybe they covered them all with black paint or something..

yeah.. bad enough when one does it to one's self. But about the sharpest pick I've seen is an authoritarian goad which casually disregards real hurt with "aww, it wasn't so bad.. ya oughta get over it.. quit being so negative, you can't wallow in pity your whole life.." easy for someone else to say. kinda like shots in the old days, with dull needles. "aw, don't be a baby, it's no worse than a bee sting.." the one who said it wasn't the one who was receiving about the twentieth poison ivy shot.. but there were a few rules. I would get a shot, providing they could actually catch me.. I didn't really appreciate bee stings either.. A lot of people ended up with a lot worse than a bee sting from der vey.

Maybe it's not such a bad place. For most people, it seems to be a little slice of "heaven". For ex-leadership types who think that they still rule the world.. maybe they think it's the other place..

I wonder if any modern churches offer a "bring your pet" Sunday.. Maybe it's asking too much. Probably be mayhem..

Cinder.. I have this imagination that would only be considered a curse by a normal sane human being.. you don't want to take me to "baby showers".. in fact, a prudent person wouldn't want to even bring the subject up, providing I was in hearing distance.. nor would one want to describe torrential rains in my presence as "raining cats and dogs".. give me a graphic kind of wayside saying, and I'll run with it.. In some ways.. I hope I never grow old.. but as bad as I am at times, I really have learned to use at least a little bit of discretion..

I wonder.. do these guys think they have all the time in the world.. they have a lot less time than they could possibly imagine. Such a small amount of time.. to set things right.. to really "get it right" this time around..

ah yes.. two "kits".. I love them dearly. I've had cake too. But one cannot have their cake, and eat it too.. I've even had cake that would bounce back off of the wall opposite of the stove, as well..

How I missed this wonderful thread eludes me.. ya know.. before throwing the Baby and the Spaghetti out.. maybe gently toss the baby against the wall opposite of the stove. If it sticks, it isn't done. If it doesn't stick, most assuredly it will bounce back.. works for cakes, too.

I have a theory.. you can't really put light in a bottle and sell it. I think it may be light, but I think it turns into snake oil the moment the greasy price tag is attached.

If you haven't figured it out, I'm not trashing all that is spiritual. It's just.. all the years in the ministry, there wasn't really a lot going on. That which DID occur was so "manufactured", so exaggerated.. people foiling debils by getting the front parking spot at K Mart.. people foiling debils because of what did NOT happen to them in their "walk".. or "leadership" "taking on" the spirit relm. Must be working, look what crap "the devil" is giving them.. I've seen God at work more after LEAVING the "one true household" more than all the years I was in that pile of an organization.. and it has not been on MY terms..