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Well, if we are talking a comparison with looney tunes, there might be more than a remote connection to "about da way"..

Yeah.. some "leaders and workers" they produced. Especially toward the end of my years in der ministry, the leaders didn't lead, they dictated.. and they didn't really "work". what was really sickening.. to watch a "leader"'s three year old kid develop the same finger pointing habits of the parent.. "there it is, do this, do that.." and then their sixteen year old kid (or maybe seventeen) at one of the campuses, "instructing" the CORPS.. the parent was so "proud".. even back then with my eyes glazed over, it really rubbed me wrong.. sometimes, I think if they dropped the arrogance, I'd call a truce, and drop my hostility..

Gandi had an interesting point.. why throw out the British if you're just gonna BE British.. Why annex a significant portion of waydom merely to BE waydom.. lessee.. run their classes.. well, close facimiles. Adhere to the doctrine like it's gawd in the flesh.. now.. run an "honors" "be all you can be" program? Where are they going to "send" these "leaders and workers"? Only place I can think.. into the ORGANIZATION, to get RESULTS. Results.. for whom? Some that got sent to my area here, I'd rather they just stayed home..

haahahahahha..

Maybe they just don't see it. It makes sense for the marines. Send them to boot camp, get them lined up in a row, disciplined, and all in agreement with the commander in chief, at least as far a action is concerned.. but a church? Yep.. send them to boot camp, give them some kinda hierarchy to fit into.. a sacrosanct agenda to promote.. more "accountability".. sounds like something I've heard before. Gotta put some teeth into da love of gawd.. and some people call this "moving da word". What really troubles me though.. Shroyer is hardly cold, and we see this little development..

And they probably wonder.. why is an "elder of the church" going back to school, at fifty years old.. spent our life among strangers.. yeah.. people would turn their backs on friends and family at the slightest hint of debil possession. The NICEST thing I ever heard about somebody who was gone for one reason or another "don't call or initiate contact with him. If he calls you, refer him to me. He's just working out a few problems.." It was almost like they didn't even really know them. Or me. When I left, I didn't hear ANYTHING from those still in. Nothing.. even to this day. I was in the coffee shop one morning here.. and one innie came in with a group.. she sat in a chair on the other side of the room, and turned so as (presumably) either I would not see and recognize her, or that she wouldn't have to look at me. And I'm (or at least used to be) a nice guy. So what happened to the "community" we were supposedly building. There was no real cement. And this new outfit.. wonders why I would raise a few questions and objections. gawd.. I could practically hear the phone calls and practically see the emails going behind the scene. "Whadda we do about ham.." It's not MY future they are determining. It's theirs..

Honestly.. they need somebody like me on the board.. I don't think they could handle it.. honestly.. I don't care who it is.. friggin circle of yes men.. each palm greases the other.. friggin idjits.. I'd join as long as I could keep both eyes open..

OK.. JL.. you here? wake up brother.. what's really really weird.. I can hear the cries of the poor bastards thirty years from now that went through so and so's "training".. they've closed the door to any kind of real assessment or confrontatiion.. so what would YOU personally DO? Well.. all I can say..my conscience, but perhaps not reputation, is clear *Paging Mr Lingo.. Paging Mr. Lingo..*

Happy Birthday! I hope your day was filled with peace and love..

I'd pick a 1939 Harvester Bus.. :) a half a dozen or so "crazies".. Kool aid in the back.. Oh.. very very nice to see you here again Steve!

Sometimes I think it is how we subliminally perceive things. Not subliminal as in "subliminal advertising". I think somebody tried something like that in Canada.. put some hidden message in the movie.. "come to the front counter for you million bucks" or something like that.. nobody came.. I've had a few experiences in the past, of the future.. They were a rather.. traumatic situation.. at least three of them, it was weird. When the "hour of reckoning" came.. it was kinda like.. I just watched happen what I'd seen before.. and it played out, down to the decor.. wasn't just an ordinary deja vu or anything. there's only one left.. that I can remember.. I'm in a room of glass.. everybody is dressed in white.. the glass walls are something like twenty or more feet high.. the building is hexaganal, or has more walls than six. no idea what it means.. until I get there.

Happy Groundhog Day. He saw his shadow.. again. I've always wondered what would happen if it was so cold, that the handler would come at six in the morning, chip away several layers of ice, and find Phil's stiff body frozen to what looks like a layer of permafrost. Technically, he would not see his shadow on that particular Groundhog Day, would he?

Yeah.. but it still bothers me.. "were you guys born yesterday? don't ya know how to do.. " It's like.. they were blaming inexperience or something like it.. on inexperience. On at least two occasions I saw the corps taking the heat for something beyond their control. Or simply didn't know how to do. What were they thinking? "if we merely beat the snot out of them, they will be better prepared next time.."

I dunno.. from what I understand.. they take "works" very very seriously.. maybe not the priests and cardinals who sin.. but the "normal".. day to day "believer". Maybe.. kinda like us here.. or at least most of us. my other dear friend.. claims the Kaballah only authorizes.. not miracles, not utterances of the names of God.. but acts of loving kindness.. isn't this the same thing? just a thought..

I dunno. If they aren't, maybe that's the "problem". I had lessee.. four catholics, one *kinda* ex catholic, and one catholic "potential" in my house tonight. Me? I'm a Druid.. a Christian.. a Pagan.. a.. whatever label a person would want to put on me... Spiritualist.. An Atheist, a Pantheist.. gawd.. I'm screwed up.. heheh but these particular Catholics didn't ask me where my loyalty lied when they chose to share their lives with me.

I dunno.. I think I "got over it"- the way bashing of catholics, priests.. when I finally figured they didn't do anything to ME, at least personally.. no real problem here. But then I have to deal with what some of the priests did to others. It's like.. a whole different set of problems.. at least on a personal level.

I was at a "Weekend in da verd".. in what was it.. 1977? Her mogster got on stage.. and I'd swear.. I saw him dress himself with a suit made out of light. For a couple of years, I wondered what in the h*ll it meant.. now I think I know.

I thought that was what abs was supposed to be for.. partly at least.I also understand that many teachers were "adjunct".. i.e.. they lived off campus, holding a job or other ministry responsibility, and only came in to do their class once a year. And how much staff work was actually done by the volunteers themselves? I had thought that the produce went on the corps dinner tables.. I wonder if you guys can litigate for deprivation of wages.. The most galling thing about this, is the labor was.. FREE. Cost.. nada. And when the FREE labor happened to be inexperienced, or over-taxed, they had the temerity to actually complain and rant about the quality of service.

thought this one might have some relevance to recent discussions..

"Modewaters, do your duty"

I made sure my cats covered their eyes when it was on the screen.

well JL.. only thing I'll say, if they've insulated themselves from confrontation.. God have mercy on them.. Why do I have the suspicion I've been been designated mark and avoid by an offshoot..

For a moment I thought you said "Osama". Then the comparison wouldn't exactly fit.. it might for bush. "Be vewy, vewy quiet.. I'm hunting Osama wabbits.. heheheheheh." then again, the comparison might fit cheney even better..

I wonder how many of the corps "volunteered" SKILLED labor..

I find myself talking to one or both of my cats a lot lately.. Now this is just plain weird.. The lady cat of the house.. just got "fixed". I absolutely HATE docs.. shots.. medical procedures.. no, I don't hate them as human beings or anything.. but I'd almost swear.. this cat looked at me and said "thanks"..