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It would be a pretty wild claim, wouldn't it?

Good point. What if you, I, and all the rest of every living organism existed before the incarnation of Abraham..

Who says that they really are that interested. In the grounds and upkeep that is.. except for the little area around the sign on w. road. Not so much to do.. they've rented out the land to local farmers, haven't they? Except for a few oil spills from wowmobiles in the parking lots.. there is not really a heck of a lot for staff to do, is there?

I understand what you are saying here.. they've worked with the lawyers, the investments, etc. And think they have some invented some kind of perpeptual motion machine. They are supposedly richer than God.. but, what if. What if.. one could not persuade somebody to deliver a truck load of food, to an address any where near 150 miles of Auglaize County, for love, or for money.. What if gasoline was non-existent, for over a 200 mile radius of the Household of Households.. how will they define "self-suffiency" then? No electricity. No Jet rides to the Bahamas.. I think this is not only a distinct possibility.. but that it is invertible. Will they be able to convince a few hungry followers to work their fields.. wait on them hand and foot..

Self-sufficient. I wonder if rosie and gang plan on turning loose the serfs (ahem, volunteers) loose on the fields this spring.. plowing, planting.. in the old self-sufficent manner.. no tractors, no gasoline.. no help from the outside world..

I used to think he was "dirty". But who isn't..

Why do we love Clapton.. I can't figure it out..

The female Deity of the world has allowed you a lot of latitude, friend.. just saying.

The old guy is an old guy. What would it take for me to bring him out of retirement.. who knows what, even if they did. at least in this concert, he looks relatively happy.

I think this performer is one of the few as *sexy* as Robert Plant to pull this song off..

yeah.. its kinda like religion, and kinda like politics.. sell you agenda to One Unassuming, Ignorant but Rich soul.. far more lucky than getting a three point shot, eh, John?

The character started witnessing to his friends.. "my GAWD.. I so felt like s*it.. ".. I think it was genuine. I can generally read through nonsense.. and even then. The then Twig Coordinator was not exactly pleased with the results..

Me, well, verfiable. It was only by admission of the crazed college student in Morgantown who I prayed for.. he kind of started jumping up and down in an excitable manner, claiming I cleared off his hangover.. but this is a true story.. must have been one prior heck of a night..

Is any (self-perceived) stability one gains, really worth the price one pays.. 1. You are going to die, anyway. No amount of stability one can garner will prevent that.. despite claims to the contrary.. you don't get claims on this particular life forever.. 2. Stability Sucks. Big Time.. who would really want it, to begin with.. boring. Always the Same.. one day, one year, one decade.. one century after another.. no change. Harmony? No.. that is only experienced during a half way decent concert.. Maybe Absolute Quackiness. Absolute only considers the magnitude, not the particular negative or positive religious or political leanings.

At the moment.. the Low Minds of Cultdom seem to be inheriting the earth. No, they are not meek.. self-entitled, ignorant, arrogant, egocentric self-serving bastards. Well.. maybe that is the nature of things.. its just an observation. Why do people continue following them in one venue, and voting for them in another? The answer to this must be bigger than me..

I think ferrets are distant cousins of skunks.. or am I mistaken? They have the scent, and scent glands, just on the lighter side. Now shrews. We had a cat once, that was quite proficient in catching them.. despite their claim of extreme quickness. I never saw how she did it.. but she always brought us the evidence. As a snack for family I think.

You didn't miss much.. I think it could be likened to da way corps, only without any perceived glory or recognition.. I was in it for about the month or so before it went defunct. But I think I was mainly there so they could practice "discerning of spirits" or something.. I'm still kind of weird..

The ROUS's are of Legendary Size. But everyone knows they aren't real..

Frigging Hippies. You should have stayed on a course heading towards chaos. Can't tell me you've really gained anything otherwise.. really.. god bless you and all.. (some of you) looked chaos straight in the eye, and survived, once. Or twice.. or even more often..

The Real Sad Thing here. Those who participated in the early years actually think they are Entitled to a Gift Ministry. I think they were damaged beyond any hope of repair..

Finally, Maggie Muggins was only destined to be a Twig Coordinator..

I don't know how much I could comment about "brother leonards" works.. I've pretty much abandoned anything "brother vic" ever had to say. I've just never felt "led" to try to substantiate, or verify vics claims at the source. but this is interesting.. I have read a little.. brother leonards work was to lead a participant to fulfilling their gift ministry.. then vic imitated the same. Then there were too many: too many chiefs. Too few villagers.. then it morphed into a two year or so program. Gift Ministries pretty much guaranteed. Then what.. there was a program with a year break.. and those with No Gift Ministry generally did not come back.. then what.. more changes. Finally, he took the supposed Five Ministries off of the guaranteed Corps Seal..

In the ninth grade, I had a gym instructor who would let his favorite students smoke cigarettes with him in his office. Is this relevant to the discussion? I dunno.

sometimes.. I think the agreements we make in this life are agreements of Stupidity. I'll just go along with the insanity for a moment to cop a good feeling or something.. Maybe the most troubling thought is that cults of various levels of stupidity have gained national prominence. They seem to be able to endlessly prattle and bray. generally at the viewers, and taxpayers expense.

I dunno. Maybe John's definition of ascension is not exactly what we think it is supposed to be.. well, you asked. :)