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What was the age of these guys? From what I remember, they were pretty young, with few exceptions. I can't think of many, or any other reputable places in the world that a far less than college educated, twenty something year old not even half way around the block sometimes single person would receive this kind of "honor" in any kind of church or organization. What happened to the older crowd who helped support the vicster in the early days? Didn't he have anybody more qualified and experienced around to choose from? I can only think of a few older clergy. M*l Ge*orge, Ge*rge J*ss, a few others. I knew one guy who was just out of the corps here, less than a year. First assignment.. I thought you've gotta be kidding.. what's he done? His dad was rather wealthy. That's the only qualification I can see being fulfilled for ordination. He couldn't really teach well.. wasn't even married.. no kids, no real experience in life. My take on it, he was almost ashamed to let people know he was a rev.
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maybe offshoots are not best ???
Ham replied to dakotawind's topic in Spirit and Truth Fellowship International
Well.. just suppose he DID get *that* right.. what REAL difference would it make? Honestly. It's only vic's theology that requires the right "dividing" of a FEW biblical "hairs".. How he could demand such accuracy on such an inane or trivial point.. and totally miss the boat on adultery, drugging and such.. which is PLAINLY in violation of what anyone with half a brain or conscience would consider the "will of God".. -
Naw.. the wild card. You know, "gawd told ME to do so and so.. forget the insanity of it all.. case closed, thus sayeth da lard." I can hear the wierwillists argument.. "well, gawd told Noah to do some pretty incredible stuff.." well, in vic's case, the rains never came..
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Then I wonder how the "board" actually runs. Is it something like the original bot, where two others try to "rein in" the insanity of the third, only to be summarily silenced with the bold proclamation, "thus sayeth the lord"? Must be pretty shrill and intimidating, coming from the voice of a boy who just barely grew past puberty.. does he hold the "magic" wild card? That was part of gramps "legacy" with *his* "men(?)" as well..
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I'm suprised they don't just have a bumper sticker, big bold letters: "KICK ME" small letters in the bottom left corner, "copyright, der vey international, 2008".
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Being a "24/7" program.. I wonder what the daily schedule is like.. 1. 5 A.M. Morning run. 2. 6 A.M. shower (cold water, on a budget ya know), dress. 3. 6:30 A.M flag raising, followed with prayer and "manifestations". Particular intercession is made for the "trustees' oh, sorry, the "board". 4. 7:30. Consume precisely two and a half cups of boiled millet in the "dining hall". 5. 8-12. Stump pulling in the south pasture today. 6. 12:30-1:30. Consume millet and hot dog sandwiches in the dining hall, while listenening to the mini-mogster expound upon the spiritual significance of current events. 7. 1:45-5 PM. Painting the old barn, more stump pulling, and rock clearing in preparation of planting the new potato crop in the south pasture. 8. 6-7 PM. Potatos, and lentile bean and hotdog sandwiches. Several "voluteers" properly reemed for not stringing the stumps precisely 12.0 inches from each other in the dining and lecture hall. 9. 7-8 P.M. Dinner clean up. The styrofoam cups and plates are carefully washed, and stacked. Unremovable lipstick stains are meticulously scrubbed. 10. 7:30-8:30. "Fun run" with the mini-mog, followed by a lesson in repelling over a cliff. It's AMAZING how he seems to have energy at the end of the afternoon. The mini-mog is impressed- we only lose one participant at the bottom of the chasm this time. 10. 8:30-1AM. Two and a half hours of vic's pfal series, interjected by an hour of analysis by da mini-mogster. Two "participants" harshly reproved for letting debils lull them to sleep during the teaching. Tooth picks to keep eyes open will henceforth be confiscated before class begins. 11. 1:30-3 AM. Sleep. 12. 3-4 AM. Emergency meeting called by the mogster. Prayer and intercession needed. The mogster has inside information that debils in lower Mongolia are planning an attack on the program. 13. 4-5 A.M. Sleep. 14. 5 A.M. Morning run..
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Dooj, it isn't all that bad. Genetically speaking, "things" don't exactly "match".. they'll just take themselves out of the gene pool, where they properly belong.. just pray the courts won't let them adopt.. or worse, is the "spouse" given power of attourney if the human goes into a coma, and lays on life support? "Mahm, being you are the closest relative, would you like us to pull the plug?" "woooof." "I'll take that as a yes.."
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Next installment, doggie gets his day in court..
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"Central Dispatch. " "I want to report domestic abuse" "Are you with the abuser at the moment" "no, I'm outside, and he's locked insde, and tearing the apartment apart.." "Please give us a name and description. Is he armed?" "He goes by Max, he's about seven years old, average build, brown fur.. and the sharpest set of teeth you've ever seen.."
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Now you're talking! I suppose the newly enacted laws would allow one to then take out say, a couple hundred thousand or so of life insurance on their "mate". Then there are social security issues...
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I really think they've saddled him with a delusion that a whole team of oxen couldn't bear. What's he gonna do when things go *wrong*? I think the blame will go anywhere, except for his egotisical little self..
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I wonder how many on the board are "card carrying members" of the Liberty Party.. that also was part of the "heritage" of the vicster's teachings and source of "divine" revelation.. I wonder how much they choose to claim of this great "heritage". 1. Holocaust never happened. Or if it did, it wasn't so bad. Oh, if anyone died, well, they weren't *really* Jews anyways.. Hitler wasn't such a bad guy. Besides, *they* were not *us*. No biggie. 2. The u.s. was supposed to be "taken over" in 1976. the vicster, by the might of his beliving and spirit of drambuie, saved us from it.. it was a *miracle*.. 3. The pope was prepared to bring inquisition to the new world, with a freshly reburbished aircraft carrier.. oh, sowie. That was his HAND CHOSEN replacement who came up with that "revelation".. just slightly more bizarre than what the vicster would have chosen. I wonder if they bolster the "troops" with words like "if the country doesn't come back to da *rightly divided* word (or rather, our current opinion about it), the debil will bury it forever.." I wonder how many times they've *reminded* the boy that "if da wierwille family doesn't *stand*," the word will just go off into oblivion..
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from Groucho on the schoenheit thread.. seems appropriate here. "gramps" is one of the kid's biggest heroes.. rates over dad. I think either he's really warped, or the facts of gramps real character have been carefully hidden from him, and covered up, or justified somehow. maybe a little bit of both.. he's supposed to be a college graduate.. what happened to critical thinking skills? Just drop them in less than a year and a half? Or maybe they don't teach them at that particular university anymore.. just let a handful of well past middle aged culties without a cause sucker and maneuver him in with promises of "greatness".. sheesh.
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Only after spray painted gold, and the appropriate sparkles added.
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Yep.. "revelation"... ha. "all nine all the time"? I wonder how many times they've prayed for the demise of the "critics" who stand in the way of "gawd's will" being done.. The "deliver unto Satan" deal.. that was part of the inheritance junior got from vic's teaching, ya know.. I know the m.o.. do they REALLY think they've got God Almighty on a magic wand, to do with Him as they please?
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Some of the offshoots are a little more subtle than using the mark and avoid threat though. "whadya wanna waste your time in a *vomitorium* like that? We oughter just be a moving da word.." the implication being that if one frequents these sites are practically godless, out of "fellowship" and bitter.. They aren't giving me many other options here, considering the secrecy, the hiding from light of day.. they won't even say who's supporting the deal.
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What I'd like to see is "their" take on this little tidbit from way history.. They seem to be attempting to ressurect the same system, with the same potential of abuse. Same "take our sheet or we'll send you home for *any* reason" posturing.. what's to keep the same thing from happening, all over again? Assurances? "oh, we've got a board watching over it.." twi had a board as well.. and this kind of power they exercised over a few thousand, corrupted them to the core. I think one would have to exonerate the vicster in one's own mind to really believe that his system of abuse and corruption to be worth resurrecting. Is this new group really holding on to the illusion that the history of corruption was mainly loy's fault, or that vic, an otherwise "honorable" man was just "distracted" by the "temptations" of the world? C'mon mr "history major".. let's hear a few answers..
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I remember one we used for a bird nest for some canaries..
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Traffic- John Barleycorn must die
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I wouldn't trust them as far as changing my cats litter box.. Oh yes, the la**ies, li*hts.. maybe that WAS the spin they put on it.. "we got's rids of the bad people's.." anybody know, or hear the spin twi put on it?
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I wonder how our artificially manufactured and artificially flavored "move of gawd" is going today..
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but if you didn't write a schedule to write a schedule and present it to leadership for approval, and one subsequently could not write a schedule to write a schedule without writing a schedule, wouldn't the mere writing of the schedule allow one to be devoured outside of the hedge of protection, where debils run free, therefore the mere writing of a schedule might be unbiblical in and of itself? I missed the write a schedule practice. But if I told this to the last limb coordinator I knew here, after chasing his tail for about three days, he'd probably have to get the "research" department involved..
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What about moneyhands? I thought he was running amok, terrorizing the British for a while..