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Frank, if I remember correctly, I think the scheduling of sex was just a corpse thing. Wouldn't surprise me if it hit the field with the last set of sycophants they unleashed though.. Isn't that kind of "odd" though, to intrude into one's personal life, no matter who they were, to the extent that you include IN WRITING your schedule of "personal time" with a spouse? Kinda bizarre.. I think they knew how far to push your buttons, and the possible consequences.. same for me. They got a nice polite.. "hmm. well, We'll think about it, and get back with you. That's it. Yeah. See ya sometime.." I don't think you would have been as polite..

Sending the vicster with a message from the almighty about how to live the bible.. it'd make as much sense as to send Evel Kneivel on a mission to improve the accuracy in performing motorcycle stunts safely..

really.. sending the vicster on an expedition with a message of truth and "right living" would make as much sense as sending Capone on a crusade for the improvement of law enforcement in america.. or sending J. Dahmer with a message for the right dividing of cuisine in every restaurant in the land.. good gawd..

I think the idea that the vicster had some kind of biblical from the hand of gawd "message" is a rather large assumption. in all fairness, I MIGHT hesitantly trust a coniving, adulterous pompous abusive sob to get a pizza order right.. and one chance at that. I wouldn't trust him with something as important as a life or death message.

Plus I wonder.. how many details were placed in the hand of your overseer's overseer. How much debt one had, how many times and when one had sex with one's spouse, how much is in the bank, etc. etc. Very personal information. I wonder if as they were considered a counsellor or advisor in the organization, one could bring criminal charges against them for violating confidentiality. They had the organization's stamp of approval after all.. I'd like to see them argue that before a judge.. "well your honor, he had debt. Therefore, he was a danger to himself and others. We had to tell.." I agree Java Jane, there seems there were two lockbox practices, one for the average follower, another for the mogster's sexual appetites and worse..

and I think that's why some feel so uncomfortable upon seeing their beloved mentor tarred and feathered in an open forum. It's like.. if he was so wrong, where does that leave them, if they partook in the spoils? Some often insist the vicster was "born again" despite his lifestyle. I wonder.. if one cannot honestly consider the vicster's works, perhaps is it that they indeed cannot condemn their own? I'm not specifically naming names, I'm just trying to understand the behavior. If the vicster's box gets unlocked, what about theirs? Or is it the nagging feeling of a long anesthetised conscience tugging at one's pants legs.. old "stuff" that supposedly needs to stay carefully covered under wraps? I remember one poster admitting some of this old "stuff" proudly. Too bad he got a beating, I think he would have revealed far more.

Look what happened to Sch*enheit.. just the POSSBILITY of supposed betrayal, the HINT of the mogster's wrong doing in a cheesy word study on adultery and he's outathere.. labelled possessed, along with those who may have read his paper.. The "enforcers" were successful enough burying him, I didn't know about it until here, years later.

I've heard it said one could practically get away with open murder in downtown Moscow for about 1,000 ruples. Not sure about the exact figure, it is probably negotiable. Enough loose change, and even the cops will give one an alibi at the time. Those who could process lots of people through classes, keep the money flowing, many were above incrimination. One could even be a "closet homo" before the dancing boy's presidency. But to violate the mogster's sexual assaults and such, sealed by lockbox, is "unforgivable". Even if it's been after he's been long, long dead.. One will find kgb sleeper types, who seem to have nothing personally invested in the situation, that seemingly wake up to refute the claims as non-factual.. the victims to be painted as the primary reason it all happened.. "they were weak, they had free will, they knew what they were doing, they..." the facts are not acceptible as truth, because they aren't a quote from the bible.. one hears claims that the actions of the perpetrator have no bearing on whatever "truth" he or she supposedly holds. Why? To defend the honor of a long dead morally reprehinsible pile of dung? I don't think so. Maybe they have more "invested" than one realizes.

I think the most disgusting thing is that there are those who desire to perpeptuate the same kind of authoritarian, abusive system that in a large way allowed this fiasco of a "ministry" to function like organized crime to begin with.. you'd think they had their fill with vic, the dancing boy, and rosie the ribeter.. I would agree that conduct invalidates whatever "truth" they think they have. If it is so good, why doesn't it actually work? I'd rather see the merits of redemption instead of just hearing about it any day.

Apparently people aren't picking on old "doc" enough.. same old same old.. won't it ever end? it's like the Boys from Brazil.. "ya, mein Fuhrer.. they vill take up your name, and from der ashes shall rise the fourth reich.." just what we need.. "a wierwille for TODAY.. in the twenty-first century.." I suppose in their minds, nazi Germany under Hitler was a paradise.. just ruined by a few "bad eggs"..

Happy Birthday friend..

When you're strange... faces come out in the rain, when you're strange, when you're strange.. when youre...... strange...

Streets look uneven, when you're down..

Women look wicked, when you're unwanted..

faces look ugly, when you're alone..

Strange welcome, indeed. People are strange. When you're a stranger..

If I could pull some out of the horn as it is passed.. I might click on the little button..

In all honesty here, he is still alive.. sorta. Lookie HERE.. check out the email contact at the bottom of the page. at first I thought it was a gag.. but it wasn't April the first or anything.. then I got to thinking.. maybe it's the vicster reincarnated.. I emailed the guy.. said, is this a joke, or were you born around May 21 of 1985? Don't you find this just a little "creepy"? makes one want to check to see what's really buried under the fountain..

I mean, well, what if he really was still alive? Nothing that a little hammer and wooden stake, or silver bullets or something couldn't readily dispatch.. Same goes for me I guess. I suppose I've wronged a few people.. if they want to dance on my grave, I'll play the music.. from what I've come to learn about the vicster though.. he didn't deserve a decent burial..

Are you saying you find something technically disagreeable about wanting to club and hammer some little known scumbucket now 20 + years in the grave? Personally, I wouldn't find it disagreeable if they opened the vicster's resting site at the fountain as a public "pay as you go" urinal.. if der vey ever falls on real hard financial times, they might consider it an option.. limited clientele, for sure, but a definite money maker..

I dunno. I might believe the first part there.. Reminds me of another time in about 1973.. someone I knew took a four way hit of something about two hours before watching Walt Disney's Fantasia.. after about three days, he started talking again..

They probably have hundreds of thousands of those red binders in the osc.. breathlessly waiting in anticipation of the world beating a path to loy's new version of insanity.. gotta do SOMETHING with them all..

They've outlawed LSD.. what else do you expect people to do with their spare time?

You might get what you ask for. The two week "freebie" that is. "yes, mr. Rhino? We only have tent accomodations, and two openings between January 18th and February 22nd..."

Another thought.. what product are those "going forth" going forth to sell? If it's patterned after the old corpse program.. they are going forth as salesmen, saleswomen, administrators.. what are they going to sell this time around? The words of v2p2? Old bootleg copies of pfal? Surely there is a plan of sorts, to make this thing self-propetuating.. even to be an "administrator".. in the real world, a college degree is just a beginning. Four years of study, let alone a years hazing at some recluses bizarro bible world hardly qualifies one to be any kind of administrator.. Then there is accountability. Are these "lucky" few bound by the salt covenant to "those who taught them da word"? for one stinking year of "enjoying" the "privilege" of chopping the mini-mogster's firewood?