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Bored? No. Though Wierstrasses theorem seems reasonable.. I'm still trying to figure out the latter half of his proof..
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So.. what does this all mean.. heh. A person can take an infinite series of numbers, and depending on how you count them, once can produce any real number. Shuffle them around.. and one can get what one wants. Is this neat, or what? I wish Rummie was still with us.. he'd at least enjoy this. as a math instructor.. *they* want me to have students be able to work with inequalities.. on an Algebra level. so I show them less than in contrast to less than or equal to.. one set of numbers have a greatest member. The other, does not.
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Jeesus f ing Christ. "those under your charge" are NOT some kind of subservient, paramilitary force.. they are supposed to be God's People.. yeah. .... the bastard in charge off with some violation of unspoken protocol.. yeah.. just send them all off in the night.. as some kind of lesson. To whom? Frigging idiots.. Morons.. no, *they* have NOT moved beyond wierwille. what if a "follower" refused sexual advances of one charged with oversight.. .... the "little" bastard off.. yep. Off you go..
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This is still the sticky point, where we part company, you moron. Or the largest, most obnoxious sticky point. You are not God.. and never will be.. no, they have not moved beyond wienerville. the quote is from the newest course description.
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Eventually we all will. Give up self-determination, that is.. Hopefully later than sooner. Eventually.. one will be forced to live in a residence, not of their choosing.. eat food prepared, not tempered with their own tastes.. bathed, when another decides it is the correct time on their schedule.. if one lives long enough. just a thought. even the Victoid ended up being an inconvenience on somebody elses schedule.. and the mrs. as well. at the moment, I question that assertion.
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Hmmm. Maybe.. God wanted to be everything.. and struggles at trying to save every stinking fragment of Himself since eternity, or the big divide began.. Just a thought.
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At the very least.. I have a lot to be thankful for Da Way. In a less than fifty percent of my lifetime, I've learned.. *almost* every conspiracy theory known to man.. the motivation for the arrogance of weird groups.. something along the line of: the I Am complex.. one more dialect of Nuttiness.
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yeah. They were "lucky" as well.. I'm still trying to figure out what that is also..
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Only wonderful, lovely, sexy old women could pull this song off in the real world. Period.
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I say, look at the eyes.. rather dilated, are they not? I mean.. or do I not.. I tend to interpret reality in terms of chemical sobriety.. whatever happened to the lady here in question.. maybe it is just a question.
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Don't say its too hard or incomprehensible. Weierstrass lived in the 1800's. He ran with a "bad crowd" though.. among whom included Dedekind, and the Heretic Himself, the Inventor of the Evil Numbers.. Cantor.
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not quite.. On a graduate level I struggled with Real analysis.. now that I have a few minutes to breath.. I find that it is actually interesting.. the real number system.. is unbelievably comprehensible. I'm just looking at it in terms of the tools we use in a basic algebra class.. Now that I can actually enjoy it for what it is.. a convergent series, but not absolutely. One can with careful re-arrangement, approximate any real number. That is, if I understand this correctly. In other words. It looks simple.. 1 -1/2 + 1/3 - 1/4 + 1/5 - 1/6 ... this sums to a real number. If one chooses a different arrangement of the numbers.. one can produce any real number. That it is possible is one thing. To choose the correct re-arrangement is yet another. Weierstrass figured this one out. Not how to correctly choose, but that it is possible to so choose.. From a fundamental algebra point of view, yes, we know how to add fractions. Am I bored? No.
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Hmmm. Maybe they are Alien Cats sent from the future, to observe Western Civilizations final Struggle against.. something or another..
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What Maggie Muggins told us about wierwille.. maybe should have told us.. "and fer gawd's sakes, he could NEVER keep his hands to himself.." :o
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Maybe we need a real visitation from the deity. It has apparently happened once. Or Twice. Maybe more times.. He holds the Majority of Creation. God bless Him.. he is God. A pale, white faced, embarrassed fruitcake .. need not apply.
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Crying? The Sun will catch me laughing my a** off.
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then what will we do.. maybe the same thing we did last time. Argue, negotiate.. litigate among ourselves.. hate each other, love each other.. the only other possibility is to be absorbed into a singularity.. one decision offers a peaceful end. The other offers endless possibilities.
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You know. One day there will be no internet. Its guaranteed. In fact, unless *we* have moved along in inhospitable space, there will be nothing here. Nothing left.. of us. Once the sun starts primarily burning helium, there will be no third planet left. Might take a few years.. no more Grand Religious Traditions again.. no physical reality in which to practice them..
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Actually.. yes. Small Potatoes.. I think the mogster was a hitch-hiker (though would he not every LITERALLY do so at his own risk.. as in going lead..) on the declining wave of Western Civilization.. what is wrong with being small. If I could be Big. i.e. hit the 300 million dollar jackpot.. I'd pay off all the loans, obligations.. give away most of the rest and just live small somewhere.. solar technology is cool. It would be nice for me, my neighbors, the closer community to live unconnected to the grid.. grow tomatoes.. In older days. My old limb leader claimed he was trying to figure out how to buy an island somewhere.. heh. I guess it takes big potatoes to be small potatoes anymore.. That thought did cross my mind here.. The Secrecy was not in doctrine. The small potatos hick from Ohio laid those cards down, right up front.
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Interesting things happen when one is freed from one's lifestyle.. or maybe. One is freed from one's karma.. it will eventually happen. Either now, consciously, or against one's will. I'm sorry if I sound so certain.. It's only an impression..
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There is a very cunning bird in nature.. a dear friend, now deceased, observed them in his front yard in the country.. can't remember its name. Get anywhere near its nest, and it would imitate a broken wing.. ah. The Killdeer. Not sure about the spelling.. but it would go into Death Spasms, indicating to prey.. "come eat me.. I'm so damned helpless.." The Integrity of the (supposed) Word is Always at Stake.. always.
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but I think he got his "critics" to indirectly market his product for him. I never challenged sowers on any doctrinal basis. It was more like.. "what about your PERSONAL accountability for the results of the program.." That is really where the dialogue stopped. The little itty bitty moron of gawd in charge believed this to be (by pappy and who know elses encouragement) to be persecution. In other words, free advertising. My question is still the same: where do you derive Authority, and do you claim any semblance of responsibility.. I don't care if you teach your followers that god is really Green Moon Cheese.. I'll set aside doctrinal issues and agree, for the moment. Everything I ever believed or hope to believe is just plain wrong, to begin with. No argument. What do you intend to really DO with your little moghood in your little corner of the world? What about the spiritual truths, i.e. facts. gramps was of awful temperament. The program was loaded with innumerable failures.. what are you doing that really any different here, in a practical sense? That's where the other end of the phone got hung up, and the "other side" claimed some kind of "victory".. weird, huh. The whole world descends upon Us.. We must be Right.. I could exhibit the same kind of Victim Mentality in many practical matters.. but I refrain from doing so..
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Jesus Christ is not God: Interpreting the clearer verses
Ham replied to Naten00's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
then one would have to be able to define perfection.. or would one? Perfect sets are easier to define, mathematically. Every element of a perfect set is a limit point of the set.. at least I think. I wonder how much mathematical analysis grew out of theology.. at least some of the terms.. -
I don't think the old man was really that intelligent. Else he would have acquired the "phd" with more legitimate means. I think he was more "cunning". Not necessarily intelligent. I think he studied.. but not like you or I. How do you capture a man's soul with assertions that the moon is really made out of green cheese.. Cunning. Very.. political. If one can get one's opposition to argue your inane, irrelevant points, perhaps you have already won the game..
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I am thinking of herr victor. How did he manage to bamboozle a crapload of followers.. I think it is mainly because his opposition allowed him the choice of weapons- and they weren't ethical, practical, sexual issues, but on doctrinal ones. No "personal attacks" no matter how factual, never REALLY came to light. Sure.. slap someone elses perception of god in the face.. and a vehement doctrinal disagreement will certainly ensue..