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I don't think it's always malicious. Peole tend to be analytical.. myself, I try to figure out what makes some people tick.. example. Take a plagiarizing, thieving, abusive, con artist over a little known odd religious organization who also is an alcoholic sex fiend, who is smart enough to surround himself with enough hardened yes men to cover his tracks.. oh, most of this applies to a wider circle than twi. Look at l ron hubbard.. Crowley, and quite a few others. and a doctrine he promotes for the most part, that DOES NOT WORK. It's a "feel good", mog-serving doctrine, and gives one the sense of "superiority". the "dead bodies" of the victims slowly are unearthed.. the plagiarism and theft is DOCUMENTED.. and in the face of evidence and eyewitness testimony, some just don't (or can't) get it. They would argue incessantly about the merits of the "new birth", and how the lowlife scumbag was somehow "graced" with the lord's presence.. comparisons are brought forward, to David, to Solomon, to Paul.. that somehow, his existence was justified because of da mighty word o da lord he researched (stole).. some would ascribe to him the wisdom of Solomon.. the love of David, the spiritual understanding of Paul.. I kind of see the need for some people to generate a label to put on this..

Way Brain- 1. The ability to seriously consider that a plagiaristic, alcoholic, serial abuser and rapist could possibly conceive truth such that it hasn't been known since the first century, despite eyewitness testimony as to the abuses, and a side by side examination of the plagiarists and original authors works. 2. A driving passion to defend and exonerate a plagiaristic, alcoholic, serial abuser and rapist, for God only knows what reason, by drawing comparisons to David, Solomon, and Paul. I don't think it's the whole brain.. it's like, something is missing. at least the dialog is predictable..

Chairman of the board? She probably imagines she's Franky Boy fronting the "prevailing" mob..

Hmm. It's like our Fearless Leader here told me on at least two ocassions. "You're NUTS." Of course, it's a badge of honor I'll be proud to wear for years to come.. It's almost like.. "Finally! Somebody understands me.." :biglaugh:

Maybe they did some research. I think Da way is incorporated in the state of Arizona.

"Ladies and Gentlemen, *Elvis* has left the building.."

They should have a new President's theme song. Something more "fitting.." She'll be coming around the cornfield when she comes... She'll be coming around the cornfield when she comes.. She'll be coming around the cornfield, she'll be coming around the cornfield- She'll be coming around the cornfield when she comes. She'll be wearing curlers and pink pajamas when she comes.. (eeeewww..) She'll be wearing curlers and pink pajamas when she comes... (eeeewww..)

That's a possibility. I think she's beyond any possibility of self-loathing.. I wonder if she has ever had an ounce of remorse from acting as rosie the enabler.. probably not. In reality, I think she compares more with Jezebel. Probably relished every moment, "extracting" loy's manhood..

I think da "ministry" has proved successful in programming their audience, not "reading" it. I cringe thinking I would at one time heartily applaud this kind of production..

Yeah.. I think they've figured out how to put the cat in caterwaulling.. You'd just think, with $158,000, they oughta be able to do at least a little better.. I wonder if rosie is actually SUPRISED by the commentary. I mean.. these are from people who likely never even heard of da way, or "have an ax to grind".

Looks like a good case of "fair use" to me. A little clip, and some commentary.. Wasn't there an article on the main site about how der vey entered the twenty-first century with their new fangled super digital sound system? http://www.greasespotcafe.com/main2/news/l...st-century.html just proves, you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, even with a $158,000 dollar digital mixer and recording console..

Hey DWBH.. is the Greasespot blues festival gonna be anything like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xhYk9PEmXA...feature=related sign me on.. heheh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC4YGECcSOw...feature=related anybody remember these guys? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUokMbJC3P8...feature=related

Maybe it's not so easy to glimpse into that level of "darkness".. a *real* friend of mine asked me.. "what if you found out that everything you believe is .. wrong.." It was all just a step, along the way..

OK.. just another question. "What does ma say about all of this?" yeah.. ma. I can't imagine a rational mom.. saying.. go ahead boy, start a cult like gramps.. there ARE two parents involved in this, are there not? Or do you think she's a "cop out" too..?

Well.. I've had some so bizarre.. I wouldn't tell them here either. it's just this one, seems so much "about da Way.."

No anchovies. I'll retrace my steps.. hmm. lessee.. 11 pm.. had two pale ales a couple of hours before bed.. in world politics class from 6:30pm to 10 pm after a double shot of espresso.. Palin was featured in class discussion. That may have had something to do with one of the Three Stooges in the dream being in some kind of position of power.. along with the clueless, cheering crowd.. worked on electronic stuff from about 10 am till 5:30.. physical chemistry from 7:45 till 10am. When the caffeine hit, we were looking at ortho-normal equations. At 9:45 it hit.. and in a flash, I saw a method of solving the differential equation that proved to be infinitely easier than looking up the integral in the table in the back of the book and figuring out which numbers to plug in it.. 6:30 am, imbibe two cups of the strongest coffee known to man.

That the Three Stooges started a "charismatic" cult. I was Curly. and the Stooges. were staging a "healing" campaign. A supposed lame man came on the stage.. I "ministered". "lord, I ask not that this man may walk, only that he be healed.." the lame guy was faking his lame act though. And he leaped up, screaming "it's a fake, it's a fake.." only to be drowned out by the cheering crowd, "praise da lord, praise da lord.." It almost sounded like the republican national convention.. no kidding.. this dream was so vivid, I remembered it in it's entirety upon waking..

and to THIS DAY... js still thinks they have the true biblical "handle" on prophecy.. why, just read their book.. and the game just goes on and on.. anyone with a differing opinion is painted as contaminated, or like in the "sewers".. JUST NOT INVITED.

Yeah.. same old model, same tactics.. and it's a different day. The days are even tougher. More competition, less resources.. T*wnsend may have survived the scramble to "get a life".. DWBH did well.. and others.. but this delay for the new "sewers" kids may prove to be financial and professional suicide.. unless the "leaders" can REALLY give them the world. More likely, in five, ten, fifteen years, they'll find themselves out in an even harder world, trying to fend for themselves. the "leaders" may do well for themselves.. but I don't think they'll ever sit on a big a nest egg as rosie and donna.

I dunno Ala.. well, for me.. I had to do "something" to burn my bridges to the old doctrine.. I won't say what it was here though..

I don't know if I'd label them all "dangerous".. some of them border, or have crossed the line to the comic.. some offshoot "ministers" appear to be just plain pathetic.. I've seen a few abandon their real "calling" (if one would want to call it that) in life, to go back to the same old environment.. plan meetings.. string chairs, get in front of the microphone.. I think jl did more with his little sat preparation program for kids than his YEARS of writing and slobbering on the microphone for ces.. those in utter denial of what the *ministry* really was.. I think are the dangerous ones. They are handling fire, and can't or refuse to acknowledge those who were previously burned..

I wonder if they offered door prizes at the big "shindig".. autographed copies of old vey publications.. the victors belting out a tune or two.. *tuning up* *la la la la la la la..* *I'm stealing a bridge..* *It's been stole before...* *rosie holds all the rights..* *but I'll show her what for.. do do do do..*

And for the Mc's.. I have a few questions. 1. What's the state of the farm? I mean.. are you wallowing in debt.. is it largely abandoned? Economic tough times? 2. Does this influx of donations and free labor alleviate your condition? 3. Who's name is on the title deed? umm.. ya know.. even with a verbal agreement and spit and handshake, whatever permanent improvements are done to real estate will belong to the holder of a title.. and one can find themselves "dismissed at any time" by those who REALLY have the "oversight".. it happened to those who built on twi's land, even to those with whom vic had a covenant of salt.. or did you relinquish the deed to sewers inc? If so.. the original owner might find themselves in the same position..

One of my cousins was in the corps, and underwent an attempted and failed deprogramming by the parents. Of course, with the escape, my cousin was made into an example of der prevailing verd.. gawd's deliverance.. I cut off contact from my aunt and uncle basically for the duration of my involvement in twi.. and they perhaps may have been my only way out.