Ham

The one seventh of one's time could be skillfully divided between cleaning "leaders" houses, babysitting their kids, setting up and running classes.. shill witnessing at malls and parks, and "door to door". That amounts to three eight hour work days without lunch time or any kind of break. I thought the "tithe" of time in the old testament was supposed to be a day of rest.

Maybe a lot of it wasn't "faked" more than it was "manufactured". Myself- I was looking for a connection like a real family. I lost both parents before I graduated from high school. The rest of my family was basically divided and scattered to the wind. I really think the promise of being "family" is too much to offer, and too much to expect.

Interesting.. what's in the "new" class looks practically identical to doctrine I saw in the 1970's. The only small difference, is that the "principles" must be "successfully" and "accurately" operated for it to work. In other words, if you lose your house, if your health fails.. apparently you didn't operate the principles "successfully", or "accurately". Might be part of a legal disclaimer. I wonder if they really read that verse.. it says that Abraham was blessed FIRST, THEN he gave. In other words, he didn't "practice the principle accurately and successfully", and EARN the blessing.. Seems their message is, "tithing, it was good enough for Abraham, it should be good enough for us.."

It wasn't my body, it was my mind. And it felt like my individuality was being burned off.. but it wasn't exactly unpleasant. If I could find a drug to duplicate it, I'd make a fortune on it.. only happened once.. long after I'd abandoned speaking in tongues, renewing of the mind and such.. Accompanied with this: there was the logical part of me that just looked on, and was trying to figure out which neurotransmitters were involved. I still functioned quite well.. went to work, still went to classes.. the only difference anyone may have noticed was a smile on my face. Is this what you are talking about?

The same "brain" even infiltrates a hobby as beneign as amateur radio. There's one group under a now well aging "charismatic" leader.. it seems to be in decline.. he named his organization, to very closely match the name of the big radio association in america.. many members in his organization think he's some kind of "savior" of radio.. gonna "pull the hobby out of the fire" so to speak.. his adherants would "witness" to other hams at different conventions.. the guy flouts fcc rules and regulations.. and he gets "slapped". Of course, his followers think he's just getting persecuted.. arbitrarily picked on.. when in reality, one has to be REALLY REALLY bad to get that kind of attention from the fcc.. seeing this "brain" in a different context is probably one of the things that helped me relax the mind-numbing grip of twi from my own self..

I think "waybrain" is the same thing that inflicts the zealots who follow hubbard, crowley, armstrong, TM, Jim Jones, koresh, Simon the Sorcerer, the deluded people who followed the egyptian(?) prophet, referenced in the book of acts, to their destruction.. the followers of Hitler, etc., etc.. I think vic just happened to be another small footnote in this hall of shame.. it's obvioulsy not about any specific belief.

I don't think it's always malicious. Peole tend to be analytical.. myself, I try to figure out what makes some people tick.. example. Take a plagiarizing, thieving, abusive, con artist over a little known odd religious organization who also is an alcoholic sex fiend, who is smart enough to surround himself with enough hardened yes men to cover his tracks.. oh, most of this applies to a wider circle than twi. Look at l ron hubbard.. Crowley, and quite a few others. and a doctrine he promotes for the most part, that DOES NOT WORK. It's a "feel good", mog-serving doctrine, and gives one the sense of "superiority". the "dead bodies" of the victims slowly are unearthed.. the plagiarism and theft is DOCUMENTED.. and in the face of evidence and eyewitness testimony, some just don't (or can't) get it. They would argue incessantly about the merits of the "new birth", and how the lowlife scumbag was somehow "graced" with the lord's presence.. comparisons are brought forward, to David, to Solomon, to Paul.. that somehow, his existence was justified because of da mighty word o da lord he researched (stole).. some would ascribe to him the wisdom of Solomon.. the love of David, the spiritual understanding of Paul.. I kind of see the need for some people to generate a label to put on this..

Way Brain- 1. The ability to seriously consider that a plagiaristic, alcoholic, serial abuser and rapist could possibly conceive truth such that it hasn't been known since the first century, despite eyewitness testimony as to the abuses, and a side by side examination of the plagiarists and original authors works. 2. A driving passion to defend and exonerate a plagiaristic, alcoholic, serial abuser and rapist, for God only knows what reason, by drawing comparisons to David, Solomon, and Paul. I don't think it's the whole brain.. it's like, something is missing. at least the dialog is predictable..

Chairman of the board? She probably imagines she's Franky Boy fronting the "prevailing" mob..

Hmm. It's like our Fearless Leader here told me on at least two ocassions. "You're NUTS." Of course, it's a badge of honor I'll be proud to wear for years to come.. It's almost like.. "Finally! Somebody understands me.." :biglaugh:

Maybe they did some research. I think Da way is incorporated in the state of Arizona.

"Ladies and Gentlemen, *Elvis* has left the building.."

They should have a new President's theme song. Something more "fitting.." She'll be coming around the cornfield when she comes... She'll be coming around the cornfield when she comes.. She'll be coming around the cornfield, she'll be coming around the cornfield- She'll be coming around the cornfield when she comes. She'll be wearing curlers and pink pajamas when she comes.. (eeeewww..) She'll be wearing curlers and pink pajamas when she comes... (eeeewww..)

That's a possibility. I think she's beyond any possibility of self-loathing.. I wonder if she has ever had an ounce of remorse from acting as rosie the enabler.. probably not. In reality, I think she compares more with Jezebel. Probably relished every moment, "extracting" loy's manhood..

I think da "ministry" has proved successful in programming their audience, not "reading" it. I cringe thinking I would at one time heartily applaud this kind of production..

Yeah.. I think they've figured out how to put the cat in caterwaulling.. You'd just think, with $158,000, they oughta be able to do at least a little better.. I wonder if rosie is actually SUPRISED by the commentary. I mean.. these are from people who likely never even heard of da way, or "have an ax to grind".

Looks like a good case of "fair use" to me. A little clip, and some commentary.. Wasn't there an article on the main site about how der vey entered the twenty-first century with their new fangled super digital sound system? http://www.greasespotcafe.com/main2/news/l...st-century.html just proves, you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, even with a $158,000 dollar digital mixer and recording console..

Hey DWBH.. is the Greasespot blues festival gonna be anything like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xhYk9PEmXA...feature=related sign me on.. heheh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC4YGECcSOw...feature=related anybody remember these guys? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUokMbJC3P8...feature=related

Maybe it's not so easy to glimpse into that level of "darkness".. a *real* friend of mine asked me.. "what if you found out that everything you believe is .. wrong.." It was all just a step, along the way..

OK.. just another question. "What does ma say about all of this?" yeah.. ma. I can't imagine a rational mom.. saying.. go ahead boy, start a cult like gramps.. there ARE two parents involved in this, are there not? Or do you think she's a "cop out" too..?

Well.. I've had some so bizarre.. I wouldn't tell them here either. it's just this one, seems so much "about da Way.."

No anchovies. I'll retrace my steps.. hmm. lessee.. 11 pm.. had two pale ales a couple of hours before bed.. in world politics class from 6:30pm to 10 pm after a double shot of espresso.. Palin was featured in class discussion. That may have had something to do with one of the Three Stooges in the dream being in some kind of position of power.. along with the clueless, cheering crowd.. worked on electronic stuff from about 10 am till 5:30.. physical chemistry from 7:45 till 10am. When the caffeine hit, we were looking at ortho-normal equations. At 9:45 it hit.. and in a flash, I saw a method of solving the differential equation that proved to be infinitely easier than looking up the integral in the table in the back of the book and figuring out which numbers to plug in it.. 6:30 am, imbibe two cups of the strongest coffee known to man.

That the Three Stooges started a "charismatic" cult. I was Curly. and the Stooges. were staging a "healing" campaign. A supposed lame man came on the stage.. I "ministered". "lord, I ask not that this man may walk, only that he be healed.." the lame guy was faking his lame act though. And he leaped up, screaming "it's a fake, it's a fake.." only to be drowned out by the cheering crowd, "praise da lord, praise da lord.." It almost sounded like the republican national convention.. no kidding.. this dream was so vivid, I remembered it in it's entirety upon waking..

and to THIS DAY... js still thinks they have the true biblical "handle" on prophecy.. why, just read their book.. and the game just goes on and on.. anyone with a differing opinion is painted as contaminated, or like in the "sewers".. JUST NOT INVITED.