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Maybe the whole point is: when you get the stimulus check, don't have a bank account or don't want to open one.. go ahead, wally mart will cash it for you.. get in, cash it for a small fee, get your meds.. or ESSENTIAL items, and walk out. Of course after paying for them.. I think a close second to wally world- the dollar stores. They exist to sell trinkets.. little pieces of plastic manufactured under the same conditions.. I can't dictate my personal plan to others.. I might suggest it.. If I pick up ESSENTIAL cleaning supplies.. I'm in and out. No walk down the useless tool aisle.. what am I going to do with another set of screwdrivers.. I've already got a dozen of all makes and sizes.. no trip down the "artsie" trinket aisle.. no gadgets.. the last time I purchased three cheap flashlights.. within six months none were usable. I mean.. they wore out, just sitting on the shelf.. the maglite I have is still fully operational.. and it has one of the LED bulbs in it, a big one.. the bulb cost about seventeen dollars, but the flashlight has the same set of alkaline batteries in it that I originally put in it three years ago.. even with use, they will last over their rated shelf life- which expires in something like 2012. It likely will NEVER go to the landfill. the three cheap ones did..

I still think our destiny is basically in our own hands.. I can't blame or criticize people for living as they must.. the three dollar a month drug plan and all.. if that's what you have to do to live..that's not exactly discretionary spending. I had to pull out of my local drugstore and go to kroger's seven dollar a month plan. I won't go to walmart unless it's the last resort.. if I can't afford to pay the additional four dollars a month to pick up medicine at a place within walking distance, I think I'm in trouble.. it's the spending of discretionary income.. buying little trinkets made in china, india.. Equador..manufactured with sulfur and slave labor.. I can't buy it and keep a clean conscience.. the big question to the class was, given a choice, if you can buy a widget produced for fourteen dollars, vs. one for three dollars, manufactured unethically, which would you choose? Only one person said they'd buy the three dollar version. Simply because that's all they could "afford".. I didn't beat them up over it.. it's your money.. do what you gotta do.. but there really is a different scenario here.. the "widget" isn't exactly ESSENTIAL to life, is it? choice one: buy the fourteen dollar widget.. choice two: buy the three dollar widget... choice three: DON'T BUY THE DAGGONE WIDGET!!! I know.. it's "unamerican" and all..

I dunno.. it very well may be a dog eat dog world.. but isn't that kinda canabalistic? I mean.. if one HAS to do it to survive, that's one thing.. but gorge oneself at the banquet with one's neighbor's flesh .. roughly 400,000 chinese die prematurely yearly due to respiratory failure to pay for the banquet.. and we're not even looking at what's happening in India.. Equador.. Mexico.. one day, America's largest employer very well may be the largest non-voluntary contributor to some form of a global superfund to clean up the mess and make restitution.. it happened here. The local chemical company just dumped raw dioxin contaminated sewage into the river, without giving it a second thought.. now they are paying.. you'd think we'd learned something.. but nooooo.. I

I've actually considered that. well.. if the economy tanks, it's a moot point anyway..

I gave a nice power point presentation in my world politics class last night.. after seeing slides of the towering sulfur laden pollution, sweat shops, and other horrors, I would estimate 28 or 29 out of thirty students will never buy at walmart again.. well, I think they would, provided the big corp chooses to "play nice"..

and there is at least one other here who would drop everything and run back into the mouth of the beast.. provided da way exhibited the illusion that it's like the good old days.. I really think.. if someone "goes back".. and the phone calls and communication stops.. after a few failed attempts to take you with them, and they subsequently avoid you.. maybe they weren't the friend one thought they were.

thanks.. I always thought you were one of the good guys here too Groucho.. I do what I can.. just imagine a small rodent trying to pee out a fire.. now if we had ten million of us working on it.. other than gross, it might just work..

sometimes that's the only options some have.. after thirty years.. I still don't exactly fit anywhere.. I'm not complaining.. things could be worse.. I just hope.. someday, it will find me.. hasn't exactly worked out the other way around..

I think it's around a year old..

If someone got caught, they'd probably disavow any knowledge of it.. scary though isn't it.. all loy boy would have had to say "he's (or she's) an obnoxious god hating faggot.. we oughta do *something*.." and we have at least one individual that would silently go off into the night, and do whatever they do without a blink of conscience.. might be "inuendo", but who's to say it didn't happen as it is.. the only way you'd know was if the person actually got caught.. it's like.. they've broken every other commandment known to God and man.. why stop short of this? at the least to me, it wouldn't take too much of a stretch of my imagination.. it wouldn't exactly suprise me.

I'm looking forward to the next time I get witnessed to.. "wanna come to a nice household fellowship (twig)?" "only if I can pack a taser.." hey, it's a small world.. I just know it will eventually happen..

Aren't Jesuits part of the Roman Catholic Church? would seem a rather large "adversary" for der vey's legal team to take on.. and considering they are doing "business" in Britain.. seems if da waymeisters lost, they'd end up paying ALL legal fees, for both parties.. air fare, exotic meals, miscellaneous expenses.. naw.. that's millet and hot dogs.. budget cuts ya know..

Mainly I think because it was "in house" slander, in front of a selective audience, who were trained to practically believe every word..

Well.. I'm glad somebody else sees a little humor and irony in all of this.. "shoot your way out of a bible meeting".. that's good.. well.. he's the prince of peace.. and if you can't have peace, I guess a piece will suffice..

I've seen what some mother cats do.. one I had would wrap it's front paws around the kitten, well it was a rather large kitten.. and beat the snot out of it with the hind legs.. he ended up being a nice cat though.. I think we found a home for him before he was irreperably damaged.. so this mother cat was violently protective of the babies, and not abusive of the babies themselves? The one cat we had long ago, when it had it's litter.. it would let you handle them. But when you started getting close, she watched your every move.. very intently.. maybe that much care is normal.. but she never would attack us.

I dunno.. have you considered a cat psychiatrist? Other than acting crazy, chasing each other around and causing only a moderate amount of destruction, your kitties counterparts here have been fairly well behaved.. and they are the same, one is pure black, the other is a tuxedo.. they aren't touchy-feely by a long shot.. but I wake up with Samantha sleeping on top of me.. and Salem, the tuxedo, he will crawl up in my lap if I'm not feeling particularly well for one reason or another.. almost like he tries to comfort me.. other than that, I think the only difference between them and tigers or lions is merely the size of the beast.. they exhibit some wild tendancies that I don't think they'll ever get rid of. I've heard cats taken from their mother too soon are just neurotic..

even if one uses the "ends justify the means" defense.. what possible "ends" came out of it to justify this kind of behavior? I really don't think the "ends" will be "a crown of righteousness at the bema" either..

"well.. it was justified.. so da WORD could *live*.." is that so? give me ONE SINGLE CONTRIBUTION all of this has given to society.. other than a few arcane, little known teachings.. other than another raging sycophant with a rather limited audience.. there is basically nothing to show, after twenty five or more years..

and to those who still follow him, take his classes.. revere his teachings.. and give him money.. I ask, why? do you agree with him that this is actually a NORMAL thing to do, and actually appropriate? "extreme times require extreme measures".. really? maybe extreme paranoia..

Looks like several voted on the bodyguard.. now why would a mild mannered, benevolent mogster type need a body guard, at CHURCH? Some people might not like that term, especially the guy who started the thing.. but twi- wasn't it supposed to be just another CHURCH? At least by strict definition.. I haven't met any mainstream minister who needs a bodyguard close by to "protect his back" while he's "moving da word".. or a guy in a ministerial association, who relied on displaying a handgun, along with a goon leveling a firearm at other clergy to demand "respect".. pretty surreal thought, now, isn't it?

The organization was hardly what it advertised to be.. a nice bible teaching group.. "wanna have fun? woncha come to twig with me..." we were following lunatics.. at least at the top.. lunatics packing heat..

and this was supposed to be a "biblical research teaching and fellowship" organization.. i.e. a "bible" group? it's just kinda hard figuring out what stabbing somebody with a broken broomstick has anything to do with the bible.. must be the "fellowship" part..

I'm almost suprised we didn't have a Jonestown kind of incident at good ole hq.. with the geer readings.. it sounds like it came close..

well.. that's what made some way meetings so "special" it's not JUST a church service.. we're battling devils, to the death ya know.. serious (deluded) business.. the insane part of all this.. some people STILL follow these numbnuts around like they are God in the flesh..

It's just.. packing heat to a church meeting? How anybody can think that's "normal" is beyond me.. Was he so desperately paranoid.. that he thought he needed "protection" because devils would jump in people's heads, and move them to kill him? I kinda agree with excies "evaluation".. he musta been psycho..