Ham

though they may share some common elements.. I think there is a distinct difference between and "intimate" relationship, and one which is merely "high maintenance"..

maybe then the relationship isn't as strong as you think it is..

and I think the "success" of the operation was due to the recruitment of those who could consistently display credibility.. like Doop, Heefner..and others.. and we were all unknowingly (maybe some knowingly..) following a madman.. seems when one found out, one also found oneself expendable.

It's like following a person.. running the same cloverleaf on a freeway all day long.. honestly.. there IS actually a world on the other side of the off ramp. Seriously Mike.. you won't fall off the ends of the earth or anything.. maybe it wouldn't be as boring if the ride actually went SOMEWHERE to begin with..

I think the conditioning was SO effective.. documented here at greasespot.. well over twenty years after the mogster has been stone, cold, dead, under the fountain.. my requests addressed to one or two individuals for "what results? what miracles are you talking about? what is the product actually DOING for YOU???" draw vague responses, and replies that I'm just carnal to even ask.. "after all ham, we BELIEVE first, then we SEE.." OK.. you "believe".. what do you actually SEE? "well.. you wouldn't understand it.." It's really more pitiful than laughable though..

Not that I'm a psychiatrist.. by a long shot.. but it seems he told these little "stinkers", the man in India, miraculously "healed" like Jesus did.. and the story of the audible voice from heaven.. and when the dust settled, went on to something that sounded slightly more believable.. like his "exclusive", "scientific" method of studying the bible.. maybe that lowered the resistance.. after all, how could a "fruitcake" develop this material.. but unknown to me at the time, even at it's best, it wasn't his to begin with.. I mean.. if he was a guy who heard from da almighty, SURELY we could trust him.. after all, other than that, he seemed about as ordinary as the next guy.. he already had (possibly fictitious) characters addressing him as "doctor".. maybe we oughter get with it and do the same.. after his "lordship" was established.. the product sold itself.. requests for documentation (i.e. healings, miracles) could then be easily beat down. just a few thoughts anyway..

Or a mantle could be a very hot place, the destination of mogster types. It was merely mis-spoken. Not "passed the mantle".. maybe it was passing over INTO the mantle (a very hot place). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantle_(geology) they even have a nice picture:

Perhaps. But he looks so troublesomely "happy"..

Hmm Well, if that's the case, at least SOMEBODY loves us..

now 119.. I wouldn't think it would be government bots.. greasespot is pretty benign in content.. probably the biggest threat would be if the "bad people" got too close, and old timer ex-culties here would beat them with their canes..

Now its down to 123.. the eyes of strange, eerie internet things of da night are upon us.. Welcome, you strange, eerie things..

hmmm... maybe school's back in session.. a group of abnormal psychology students gathering information for a paper or thesis or something..

umm, who cares about WHAT? I dunno.. if the old mogster was merely delusional and just harmless, maybe nobody would.. The delusion lives on.. apparently these kids "don't care".. give them twenty or so years though.. grown adults, in their fifties and sixties, perpetuating this nonsense, for the next generation, when they REALLY are old enough and (assuming) mature enough to sort it out.. a person is better off believing in Santa Claus..

I always wondered about that too.. but Hoffman's lsd experiments started in 1943.

I dunno. I wouldn't chalk it up to a hundred percent hucksterism.. maybe somebody's got "something".. but once they slap a greasy price tag on it, I think it practically immediately turns into snake oil..

I suppose I should ask, which snowstorm? The snow on the pumps, or the torrential snows in tulsa, blocking his holy arrogances exit? either way though, I guess the vote is the same for me.. Hmm.. hallucinated. Maybe it was a real big huff of DMT.. Kesey saw Lou Costello materialize out of a pipe once..

I'll have to remember that statement the next time something like this crosses my path..

ACTED like one, threw fits, tantrums.. needed constant attention and adoration LIKE the baby, but, no, he was not the "baby". just setting the record straight..

what I find a little more creepy.. or sad, someone, who is obviously intelligent.. a mature adult, and over fifty years old at that.. in face of the facts, the character of his creepiness, STILL refer to the mogster as "doctor", when in my honest opinion, they have the intellectual ability and logic to know much much better.. continual appeals to not throw out "the baby" with the bathwater.. the vicster isn't exactly the "baby"..

the only thing I'll say.. no. He wasn't a "Doctor", by any stretch of the imagination. No.. vic was NOT a doctor. Never was.. and where he probably is, very likely, he never will be. NEEDED a "doctor", perhaps. Maybe even a whole team of "doctors". WAS a doctor? No. Just to set the record straight..

I would think so.. for that group, I think it is probably a REQUIREMENT to really buy into all that junk.. they probably even have some kind of special fellowship to commemorate the day.. like the parent organization. maybe it takes a curious mixture of mushrooms, sterno and terpentine to fully bring oneself to unabashedly believing vic's snow story..

what I wonder is.. does the sowers have or plan to have a shrine on the farm with life-size historical replicas of "doc" fervently praying, and the said gas pumps.. I mean, if they are buying into the "greatness" of the whole package.. that comes with it..

Happy New year too, friend :) let's not be too hasty.. I'm sure it snowed SOMEWHERE.. like the northern parts of British Columbia.. Northwest Territories.. maybe even Alaska..