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People are Strange.. when you're a stranger.. faces look ugly.. when your'e alone.. the movie ended with this song..

Sorry.. it just happened to be one of my favorite movies.. you know.. life imitates art or something..

so.. what happened to jt.. (I'm trying to stay on topic here :)) did he MOVE ON.. or consciously CHOOSE to simply take advantage of his "recommendation" by herr fuhrer.. excuse me, the "mog".. one of the paths do indeed end up in what they call a "dead end street".. I'd really like to know.. did he end up like one of the "lost boys".. you know.. stab the "master vampire" in the heart.. and then.. life goes on like "normal" or not.. it's a fair question..

I'd say it hasn"t changed, just changed the decor..

sooo... what happened to poor old jt? did he ever overcome his past, or fess up to it? or go on to greener ex-way pastures to sponge a living? Does he STILL sponge a living, teaching the SAME OLD STUFF.. with the same old "doc" vic mannerisms? or did he go to college.. get a job, or develop a career, get a life? or is he something like a thirty year old gerbil.. nothing remarkably (or unremarkably different) from year to year.. just a little more grey on top? When's the last time somebody checked for a pulse? hey.. it's an honest question here.. I was taught if you're not changing you're dying.. don't know how much stock to put it it though..

It's like.. if one of my pets looked the same as it did, twenty, thirty years ago.. I'd check its pulse..

Congratulations! What a cute baby..

after how many years? No CHANGE.. I'd be disappointed if I was the same as I was thirty years ago.. not that I was a bad fellow or anything. Makes me wonder.. did jt ever "come clean" on this sex stuff? not that I'd lead a publc lynching or anything.. but if not, what's he still doing in the "ministry"?

with the worsening economy and unemployment.. I wonder how long it will take people to actually assess what these sycophants really DO.. how much longer will people actually throw hard earned cash because they either feel guilty, or sorry for the afore mentioned sycophants..

who knows.. with the worsening economy.. dropping tax base.. it wouldn't suprise me if the government raised the bar on what is or is not a "non profit" organization.. and bleed these scumbuckets dry.. the difference between twi and legitimate organizations is staggering.. we have a few foundations here, which exist to serve.. not be served. The "unbelievers" have far better manners..

that's the whole point, isn't it? a product to sell, a crowd to scam.. considering some STILL support the organization.. makes me think their threshold for detecting a scam is pretty high.. probably learned behavior.

What I wonder.. does jt still closely mimic his fader in da verd's little heart tugging mannerisms? is one of his meetings like an old day in da way? Just curious.. if so, I think it's kind of pathetic, past the midway point in life.. did he get any real life skills, or training? Go to college?

maybe because he "got a life".. just a thought.. the rest of the numbnuts wallow in the past.. for the most part..

that wasn't the original picture though.. the picture that the link goes to changes every so often.. The first one was a squirrel with a cup of coffee.. here's the original posted image:

Can one still make a living off of that junk?

I like that word.. "think".. excuse my manners. Is it Theme X.. or The Mex? welcome to the cafe..

That would have supposedly been (as far as "seed" is concerned) Arthur Ford. Probably where the vicster learned some "showmanship" when channeling a reading.. ahem, operating revelation or something..

soooooo "dated".. one good thing comes of it for me.. it's so downright EMBARRASING I was so gullible as to eat this kind of "stuff" thirty some years ago.. that it is one place I will assuredly never return to, ever again..

the only reason I can see why one would justify those kind of actions.. is the person making that statement simply CANNOT distinguish between a lawless, predatory, scumbucket with a religious fever, and a "manogawd".. just.. can't tell the difference between the two.. that's the mind you are arguing with here.. Just can't see it. Even with documentable, cold, hard facts.. the only "lucky" thing about it all.. his methods are DATED.. stuck in 1973. I think "sheep" have evolved.. they are a lot smarter than that today..

As one rule of faith and practice.. how about "do no harm"? This more universal truth is documented in almost every religion and belief system, even among atheists. love does not work ILL to it's neighbor.. therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. It does not even IMAGINE of drugging and raping a sister in one's belief system.. It does not STEAL other's works to further it's own ambitions.. I think Wiccans and others merely expand the scope and importance of this "commandment".. but the concept itself is as "Christian" as Jesus.. in some places, the old testament outlined in painful detail EXACTLY what it was to love one's neighbor..

sooo... as a "haven" (if one calls it that).. what do these splinter groups actually DO? Or offer.. that one can't REALLY find anywhere else? One I am aware of.. went from a "help you when you get out of the way" "decompression" outfit.. and slowly morphed.. added a big building.. grounds.. structured tiers of classes.. "twigs".. "training" and "outreach" programs.. one could walk in today, and hear a "worship service", tongues with interpretation and prophecy, indistinguishable from what one heard over twenty years ago. it looks like der vey, circa 1982. honestly.. I think people need to move on.. when your time was "done" in the "ministry".. why not just move on, instead trying to recreate a shrine based on only the "good times"?

reminds me of Mike.. *bless his heart*.. might be a "personal" observation.. but I think it's valid and relevant.. I think he represents an "offshoot" in and of himself. Uses the same kind of "witnessing" tactics.. tries to corner people off on their own.. "if you just PM.. I'll explain EVERYTHING.." because his "explanations" do not survive in the light of day.. the MOST FRUSTRATING thing.. he's a NOVICE. even after years of repeatedly jumping through the same set of hoops.. tries to position himself as some kind of "authority" of sorts.. the "sowers" CHILD is infintely more worse off.. started life with a train wreck, instead of finishing it with one..

GENERALLY.. the offshoots are no better. They have adopted this multi-tier caste system.. How many hoops does one have to jump through, before one ever "arrives"? what I saw this system produce.. NOVICES who merely had enough stamina to endure the rapid succession of different classes and seminars, placed in positions of authority they really had no qualifications for.. and they had not "arrived" yet either.. more classes, more meetings.. corps.. etc. etc.. some of them have chosen to STAY novices.. into their fifties and sixties..

I dunno.. my experience was I was hounded to death to take this little known class.. even after I paid.. I paid about 3/4 of a year before they could come up with another six people to run an audio class. Can you imagine being "undersheherded" for 3/4 of a year? After a while.. the group relaxed.. figured I wasn't going to run off or something.. but then, the class! Suddenly, it seemed *they* were so desperately AFRAID that the "devil" would try to talk me out of it all.. that somehow, their SOLE PURPOSE in life was to see to it that I crossed the "finish line". I thought it was comical.. but my general impression.. people were on spiritual PROBATION until they sat through this mind numbing class, to the end.. but this was only the first hurdle. Then they couldn't be "trusted" with any of the other "manifestations".. more classes, more activities.. more, more more. And one never "arrived".

I dunno. When I was out of twi.. I wasn't aware of the offshoot active here. It was close to a year before somebody contacted me. "Cold turkey" isn't so bad.. a family member asked.. "whadda we do NOW?" Well.. we get involved in the community.. try to make friends.. who knows..