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Cripe.. ya wanna be a lawyer.. BE A FRIGGIN LAWYER..

*boo hoo.. it's just another set of hoops to jump through..* and I'll add.. INFINITELY more difficult, that sitting through the latest "miracle" class.. what kind of "hoops".. Learn how to read, understand, analyze, and logically comment on literature.. Learn how to actually research, properly document, and write in a way people can actually understand you.. Learn enough math to actually have no excuse for being short-changed at the lunch counter, or supermarket.. or be forced to pay someone to crunch the numbers, STILL not knowing if the numbers are "honest".. learn at least one foreign language. At least enough, that if one is lost, to ask the locals "donde es la servesa" or something.. learn enough about world conditions, that one is well aware of the names of those who their newfangled high tech gadget will disenfranchise.. honestly.. as far as "education" is concerned.. twi left us far worse off than "short changed"..

I still wonder about the little book though. Is it still there? Or is the embarassment that 99 percent of the names of those who (practically) broke their backs contributing to that particular construction project are people loy castigated/marked and avoided/purged/whatever, that they've felt justified removing it from public display? Just wonder..

I mean.. really.. you're "passionate" about scumbags getting a fair shake and all.. I got into this math and science thing thinking I'd make some kind of difference.. believe me, it's not for the money.. I can think of a few ways to (positively) motivate students to learn math.. I just happen to like the subject.. what's the difference here, wd? Wanna make a real, substantial, difference? Think you are "right"? fine.. PROVE IT.. "duhh.. but I'm so old.." personally.. I don't think one is "too old" until they are dead..

Personally.. I think if someone is that "passionate" about legaleaze and all.. maybe one ought to go to law school.. if a fifty some year old squirrel can get a degree in math and chemistry.. I mean, cmon.. how hard can it be? you take your midlife crisis.. and just don't throw it away.. for gawd's sakes, DO SOMETHING with it.. I just didn't want to PRETEND to be a mathematician for the rest of my days or something like that.. oh, the nice university thirty miles the other way accepted me into their grad program.. now if they'll give me a teaching assistantship.. I'll be REALLY happy..

and while you are at it.. is that little book still in the auditorium.. listing names of contributors? Just curious..

it's almost "funny" at first.. "amusing".. how "quaint".. then if they persist.. and show they are really SERIOUS about it all.. *well.. what are YOU doing to witness da greatness of da word da manogawd taught us..* or something.. then it's "troubling".. at least to me. like the night of the living dead or something.. I wonder what *they* are doing with all of those old pfal materials and stuff they bought from geero.. probably five to seven bucks a shot.. as far as vic's old books are concerned.. probably trying to sell it in an internet bookstore.. with a name more appropriate for a cemetary.. sorry.. but it's probably true..

I've met some like that in real life.. honestly.. it's almost.. if not beyond, eerie.. almost like they've woken up from a slumber, that began in 1975 or so.. almost scary. Still living in "da way, it was.." I don't know how to describe it.. "funny" or "troubling".. perhaps a mixture of the two..

actually.. that's just about the picture I've got in my head.. I tend to try to figure people out. I'll digest what they say for a while.. then as in this instance, only two possible scenarios explain it satisfactorily to me.. I wonder how many more twi "sleepers" there are..

honestly.. some of the comments and such I've seen with such a "legal" flavor.. if I'm not mistaken, this is my take on it.. the originator seems to be some kind of "sleeper" spy or something.. put in cold storage by herr vicster in the event that someday, some victim might have the "audacity" to break open his lock-box, to bring CONSEQUENCES (grilling for every documentation for every grisley detail) for opening said lock box with accusations that the person is just overstating the situation, or mistaken, or just plain lying.. but I could be wrong. I have a pretty vivid imagination.. it could be just as simple as one holds a warehouse of the now dead adulterous ravenous pig's materials, and can't sell them until the heat's off.. then again, I could be wrong. But these are the only two scenarios that make any real sense to me at the time..

at least one can't describe it as "boring". generally.. the schoolyard bully comment is fitting, but I think it describes bullying with a quasi-legal flavor to it.. corporations can exhibit that kind of behavior. Like the old RCA corporation and Armstrong. he lost simply because RCA had deeper pockets, and more lawyers and motions in courts than he could even dream of keeping up with.. but this is not a court here. At least last I checked.. I don't see a problem with having a different experience in twi.. not everyone went wow, or corps, were publically berated, or were drugged and raped, or the like.. "wow, that wasn't MY experience.." now, if one said their piece, and just left it at that..

Witness: *and that's when the scumbag..* Defense: *your HONOR. I OBJECT. Assumes facts not in evidence..* Prosecution: *we have already established your client is a dirtbag. Your honor, what is substantially different here?* Defense: *Your honor.. I assure you, there is a substantial difference between these OUTRAGEOUS CLAIMS... besides, my client isn't convicted, yet..* maybe the "defense" has delusions or something.. there is no prosecution, no judge.. we're not even in a courthouse.. maybe he's walking around just talking to himself..

I don't think that's entirely it. I don't think there's a problem with a pro-twi posting, as long a certain people aren't so intensely obnoxious about it.. to me, it's the eternal bickering, eternal lawyering.. eternal quest to exonerate the scumbags.. lying in wait for a poster to make a small factual error.. then to blow a little matter completely out of proportion with demands of following rules of evidence, documentation, etc. etc. etc.. in short, "lawyering" any personal account into a dark deep hole.. and conveniently ignoring fully documented corroborating evidence and the like.. and it goes on, and on, and on.. if twi wants a lawyer here, I'm sure they will send one.. I think some posters just watched too much Perry Mason.. there the "accused" is NEVER the real perpetrator.. at the end of the show, even with overwhelming odds.. da lawyer pulls some judicial wabbit out of the hat.. and his client is fully exonerated, the apposing legal team slinks away in embarrassment and dishonor.. somehow, I don't think that's going to happen here..

Its over only when HE says it's over.. Hmm. well, it's been what.... almost eight weeks. Maybe he forgot to put a zero on the end of that prediction..

hmm.. maybe they got rid of it on an uncle harry day.. my name is (or was) in that little book in the auditorium listing contributors as well..

what suprises me.. is that they haven't tried to sell their old mailing list to offshoots..

So.. I hope her "royalness" "enjoyed" another day.. had to be in the "company" of other like her.. " hey.. happy birthday.. hope you had another one.. just like ours.." I'd play the Beatles Birthdday song for you, but loy probably told them it was possessed or something.. well.. happy birthday, anyway..

sorry you think it's a mistake.. we are what we are, friend.. :) Peace..

thanks friend.. :)

what I've observed among some of these offshoot "leaders".. not all, but several.. they seem to want to live an upper middle class lifestyle with less than high school qualifications.. almost like it's an entitlement or something..

and these guys think they are actually doing people a FAVOR opening up another shop, and just leaving the old baggage behind? sorry.. it's just not that easy.. do they REALLY think they can circumvent a real *show* of public repentance and HARD WORK? Or do they think just "moving da word" "covers" a multitude of sins? Yeah.. that's it. That makes everything *OK*.. I guess.

and from reading his little bio on his site, I would have to come to the same conclusion.. now.. I'm not "da man with a *ministry* " here.. I'm not trying to sell anything.. not looking for followers, people to send tapes or cds to, take my classes, etc. etc.. why shoud *I* have to chase HIM down? wouldn't one think that "da man with a *ministry*" would not want to leave that kind of doubt in people's minds? I mean.. it's not MY reputation here..

at least SOME people in the world are consistent..

Anybody who is thankful to the "founder" of a religion.. a false prophet at the best, abusive, alcoholic sex maniac and false prophet at the worst.. even today.. words can't describe my contempt here..

I don't say this lightly.. but.. didn't he end up succumbing to the same disease as pa?