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could be.. but really. Who runs that "organization", now? In my personal opinion.. a *hick* who would otherwise have to work at a minimum wage job somewhere, asking what people's hamburger and happy meal preferences need to be fulfilled for the order.. anybody can just bark orders. Now.. to bark the RIGHT orders.. is perhaps a significantly different matter.. I don't think they could come up with enough carrots to lead anybody competent enough to pull the organization out of the fire, to take office. except for.. yet ANOTHER *hick* (excuse the slur.. just can't find any other apt description at the moment) to take minimum wage, a week in the Bahamas.. along with a little bit of moggish worship.. to take the helm. Along with the liabilities. I hope young moneyhands runs.. as fast as his little feet can carry him.. pa's "nuts".. excuse the additional "slur".. but I can't find any other apt description..

hmm. So she will provide one final "service" to da household of der way.. another thought.. what bright, upcoming, candidate competent enough to run a fortune 500 company or such.. would waste time, effort and professional development to head up an organization with less resources than a real, efficient, bonafide CEO would reasonably expect for a years salary and bonus.. there are no more corporate jets, that I know of.. he'd have to fly first class, or coach.. along with the unwashed masses.. I don't think even the offer of a week in the bahamas for a "trustee meeting" would entice anybody worth their salt.. maybe an aging ceo from gm could offer his services..

just wonder.. what's the plan. When rosie the ribitter croaks her final one.. who's next in line? I mean.. who do they think has the supposed "competence" to continue to run a sad, aging, failed organization even further into the ground? Or do they even have a plan? rosie's "renewed mind excellence" won't exactly keep her hopping, and on the throne forever..

I wonder what the impression the "kids" have in all of this.. "parents" (as one can call them that) off playing secret squirrel, gathering bits of information about people who "threaten" their regime, or so they think.. if I was one of the kids, I'd tend to think this behavior was due to advancing age in the brain.. now moneyhand's kid.. what's the deal here.. just hanging around, waiting for rosie to croak her final croak? Then receive the "presidency" by some kind of acclimation of the said "members" advancing greatly in age in the brain?

One of the souls I met along the way (not IN the way!) asked me something like.. "what if you found that everything you believed was just plain WRONG". What would you do? well... I'd be "generous".. those who instructed me in the ways of wrongness.. well, they'd be as "wrong" as me, wouldn't they? I think.. for most, there is nothing as good as being "wrong".. as being "wrong" together..

what I would like to know.. how many people here experienced something they could describe as "unsnapping"..

kinda reminds me of the loyster's claims how fortune 500 companies oughter be clamoring for his "expertise".. he would not survive the first five minutes of an interview..

and I didn't have an ulterior motive for asking.. just wanted to understand your mind friend.

considering that young vicster didn't really want to work the land.. i.e.. continue in pa's stead, and run the farm.. wouldn't ownership of the land be not unlike an Albatross about the young victoid's neck? what better "arrangement" than to deed it to a "corporation".. and still receive revenue.. without having to EVER produce yet one more day of honest labor.. of course, that's probably what you're trying to say..

I laughed half the afternoon over this.. but it's really pitiful.. what you describe as this competitive clawing, manipulation, ladder climbing.. I think in principle da "fox" exhibits the worst characteristics of corporate america.. but outside of the folds of twi, I don't think she would have even a quarter of the compentence to survive. twi is probably (to her(?)) a "dream come true.." a (well paying supposedly) job.. that requires little or no real professional competence.. just raw arrogance and obnoxiousness..

Garth.. did you go through momentus? Just wonder..

well.. yeah. That's what they are wating for, I'm sure.. almost as likely as like some of us here.. waiting for them to wake to some kind of righteousness or something.. (I'm not entirely discounting the possibility.. but hour by hour, it just doesn't seem to be "happening"..) so.. the current count. We remove the kids, the pets, who's left?

perhaps in your eyes.. spirituality is only in the eye of the beholder.. just another thought.. :)

well, yes. along with a nightly commentary, at 7pm.

How about.. "do no harm" ? that's the thought that keeps coming to me.. the "strange" thing.. it seems to be a reoccuring theme in many beliefs.. few seem to live up to it that I've observed..

maybe my point is.. "don't pick on the sixties". they may have been days of being "screwed up".. but not "unparalleled" in human history or anything.. I was just a little too young at the time..

The more I think about it.. the more I have issues with the sixties reference.. it's almost like.. you've manufactured a "problem" and "solution" in one line.. drugs? They have been a "problem" since.. who knows when.. before lsd, there was a lot of "stuff" they used for divination and such.. if it wasn't for tv, and the nightly news, Leary wouldn't have had anywhere near the following that he did.. well.. it's just a thought. The media could have just have let sleeping dogs lie.. but NOOOO.. the very icon of "rebellion" (in many people's eyes) has followers and such splashed on the nightly news at 7pm.. So was it a time fraught with moral decay? I don't think so.. I think it was blown far out of proportion.. Promiscuity? How about a time.. when a "lady" dresses herself up as a prostitute.. and "does business" with her father in law..? and it was during a time, far far before the sixties.. Just a few thoughts.

I don't know how much I agree.. I would modify the former statement. Perhaps the sixties were fraught with moral decay, not too much unlike generations and other decades past. With America's development of television, no nook or cranny of moral decay seemed to remain as safe and excluded as it once did.. developments in technology in the forties and fifties brought battles in Vietnam, scenes of protest in every street, and the like to the living room of "everday" "normal" Americans, and others who had the capacity to view the same images. I'll have to think about the rest of your post..

if you don't count rosie's cats, the innies "non serious" pets like goldfish, guinea pigs, hamster.. it's probably closer to 1497..

don't the "directors" vote themselves in? I thought they had some kind of majority rule.. once in, like.. a majority of could vote a "member" off.. unless the new subservient vice presidents can't vote or something.. just glorified lackies and gofers for the top three.. I think it's more like a tag team consisting primarily overweight, aging.. what's the word.. it'll come to me.. but they've "tag teamed" the top positions of the organization for how long now.. honor among "thieves" works I guess.. and once you're "in", You're IN. Unless one's behavior threatens the other "members" with possible criminal prosecution, or just don't have the stomach for the job. Look what it took to oust the loyster.. they were content to just swat his little hands, and say be a good boy.. I think it's more like a club..

about 3/4 of a year ago, I took my old loose leaf oxford.. took a deep breath, and sent it to the landfil. It had whole class sylabi transcribed in it, most of pfal, etc. etc.. it was the last item I had with any way theology transcribed in it..

that's the "odor" I detect in jl's pathetic "da way-it was" letter.. "sure, it was abusive, doctrinally and practically 'screwed up', but for a brief MOMENT.. *we* were part of da most significant MOVE of gawd since the first century." the "pathetic" part about it was, *we* didn't "win" some kind of game.. his little "winning moves" were marked foul.. not that there would be a significantly different outcome if they weren't.. I think if it was anything he "won", it was a ruling seat in an abusive organization.. chosen out of all of the rest of the drones..

for a "fair and balanced" supposed review of everything da way, the site doesn't seem to offer much, other than whoever the guy is giving the vicster's stolen goods five stars.. whatever that means..

it's not money.. it's numbers on a hard drive somewhere.. :) you can bet all my numbers, zeros (the few that there are) and all..