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But the vast majority passes microsoft word spell checker. heh.. I think that merely shows what a NOVICE jl is.. even after all these years..

hmm. "Now, due to Dick and Jane's adherence to the present truth and one true household, miracle self-flushing potties are sprouting up in ordinary places, like malls, shopping centers, and gas stations.."

I dunno.. I found a lot of twi's materials rather intellectually un-stimulating. The rise and expansion book, which I no longer have a copy seemed full of dull, lifeless drivel, with an occasional sprinkling of a few Greek words, or a little known or noted figure, like symperesma. Maybe it was mainly the loyster's supposed works.. so full of chaff and drivel, it was a genuine labor to try to milk anything worthwhile out of it.. a kindergarten book.. "Dick and Jane learn how to flush the potty" would prove intellectually superior.. short, maybe one or two examples.. and then to the point.. and then you don't labor the point for another sixty pages.. I mean.. enough is enough, isn't it?

I just wonder what he is going to do, or even can do for a living when they put him out.. maybe like harve.. he'll try to convince some collection agency he has experience being an a***hole..

I picked up music listening habits that I left off with involvement with der way. Beatles, Grateful Dead, James Gang, Joe Walsh.. Yes.. among others. My taste in music is slowly catching up.. I started listening to eighties, ninties stuff.. Crowded House, REM and others. I also tried some kind of Buddhist meditation a couple of times.. I think that burned out a couple of links in my circular reasoning I had built up for a number of years in da way.. then there was the time I .. I won't say here. But it pretty much burned away the rest of the religious paranoia.. all I'll say, it was legal.. Also, I went back to college. Its almost like I hit the rewind button.. I'm doing what I should have done in the 1970's. I stone cold quit speaking in tongues. For any reason. About three years ago. No noticeable ill effects.. no withdrawal, no spiritual "disasters" or lack of "discernment".. in fact, everything seems clearer now. That's about it, here..

Sooo.. its been another (roughly) three months.. any soap yet? Are they still on the highway of litigation? jl seems to be hidden under a rock somewhere.. you'd think they'd just learn how to "get along" after all of that "biblical' teaching and all.. have they even picked up the phone to (heaven forbid, or the lawyers forbid) TALK? How is it, I have the feeling they are going to take this little feud with them to the grave..

Sometimes I think there is something to it.. the rewired brains that is.. though I wouldn't put everybody in that category. But I've met several, and closely followed and challenged their circle of "logic" in a complete loop.. I've seen some kind of burn out, blow a fuse of sorts.. Maybe it's a type of personality. It requires the "certainty" in life, that only circular reasoning can supposedly provide.

Maybe this has been done before.. but I'd like a few more specific statistics. Note. You may vote more than once. Some went through the program, and may even have graduated twice.. or part through once, or part through twice..

The thing about all of this.. there is no functional "church" to bring these issues up with. It's "loosely" affiliated with likely a half a dozen offshoots.. they must think *they* are *the church* or something like that.. if you "counselled" the *young man* (or rather, the aging morons around him) to just "follow his heart, if gawd called you to do this nonsense, by all means, go for it.." I don't want anything to do with you. You are for the lack of better words with my understanding.. "nuts".. if you are just a bystander and merely advertise his little crock of an "adventure" without some kind of honest inquiry, the same words are for you.. sorry, you're not God. I don't answer to you.. didn't you see the results of this kind of effin moronic nonsense the first time around?

So the year has passed.. you've done your *little* youth event thing.. sang *doc* vic's praises.. had a few "rousing" teaching of sorts. Everybody looks so "blessed".. "happy". If that's your measure of success, it doesn't impress me. Even Manson could chase up a few enthusiastic followers.. he could keep the "family" in line.. his way, or the highway.. sound familiar? My opinion.. you are operating with even less accountability than a year ago. No answers then to reasonable questions. I am left to assume it is only worse.. Led by a group of aging, bitter disenfranchised victims of a fiendish multi-level marketing program with a thin veneer of religion.. and that's what it was, in reality. So you've got the first set of marks ready, out to recruit the next level.. a tight little "inner circle".. who likely have sworn their lives, fortunes and sacred honor to your organization.. tell me if I'm really that far off the mark here..

From your Fox 61 link.. Interesting.. no denomination, they likely have zero accountability. Explains in part to me the unrestrained "nuttiness"..

I didn't have parents, or even pseudo parents at the time..

and, you failed to mention the rounding up and burning of black cats to rid the land of "spirits" in preparation for Easter in the middle ages. Slowly, this custom evolved into what was once called "uncle harry day". Later, a day to burn the chaff, or was it, get the shaft.. I've heard linder, and now quite possibly his replacement, have a certain propensity toward "dispatching" supposedly unwanted cats. Is there some connection in all of this? Probably a remote one..

No matter what you think of Geo.. I regard him as one of the most "spiritual" people I've ever met.. and we probably disagree on almost everything..

How about a "fair weather" report.. "everything is OK here.." they hate that on weather nets here.. no "scary" clouds or anything..

He can speak in *real* tongues..

sounds like you were actually surprised.. personally, I can't take too much issue with a fellow who has pretty much a working knowledge of Japanese, as a second language.. :)

I've supposedly graduated too. They put my name in the program, and in real life I passed the last three classes.. but they haven't shipped the final diploma yet. It's been about a month and a half.. at least once, I've waken in a sweat, from a rather lucid, vivid dream, where the instructor has explained to me why I am failing the last (needed) class..

congratulations..

oh yeah.. you play it backwards, and it says (victor) Paul is dead or something..

What brought me to gs cafe.. probably the same thing that brought me to twi to begin with.. might sound weird. The only difference, I found what I was looking for here, once.. will I ever find it again? I don't know..

There are times.. that I really wished a few (specific) others at least THOUGHT he might be talking to me..

same for me..

Actually those were my thoughts when I wasn't being corralled into any specific mog's stable or something.. or even when I was.. I think I at best tolerated, or tried to understand the core beliefs, to connect with other human beings.. does this make sense? Now the core beliefs are just a tad more complex..

I dunno. Maybe my core beliefs.. "there is a god.." just don't make me define Him.. or her, or whatever one's particular belief might entail.. I have a few questions though.. in the event I meet Him/Her?whatever..