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I think "Liberal Theology" is another name for "them". You know, the ones in the other camp. Over there.. *them*. Not *us*.

Do you have an example of an overly liberal theologian who proclaims anything and everything is "ok"?

The "amazing" part of these kind of claims.. they mostly seem to come from some back-alley somewhere, from little known non-denominational outfits.. with little or no accountability, to anyone. and this claim brands mental illness with the same arbitrary stigma that existed more than two turns of the century ago. People have a hard enough time and issues dealing with depression.. why harrass them with this kind of hocus pocus? I think its a case of "the vicster told me so.." the big "discerning of spirits" guy there learned (practically) all he knows from the vicster's materials.. thankful for his fader in da word..

Maybe that's the best he can do.. or maybe he has a lot of time on his hands lately.. or both.. Yeah, I'd vote on both.

Most of the people in this poll might disagree with you..

We need some kind of modern interpretation of archaic laws.. If it is consumed withing greater than 5000 cubits of one's standing residence, it does not count.

and with returning veterans, likely finding the job market deplorable, seeking higher education.. and the current administrations emphasis on education.. when I have acquired the master's in math in roughly two or two and a half years, I will be more than EMPLOYABLE. A masters degree, real life experience managing and teaching classes for two years.. one possible class in the program involves some kind of guided internship of sorts, advising industry in some kind of professional manner. of course conditions could change.. and I don't know if I have the stamina for the doctorate, yet..

whoever had a bad time of it.. I'm sorry.. I know it can happen. Taking out student loans and such can be a pretty big gamble. If one does not finish, well.. you still owe. Going the loan route, at a good (or rather expensive) school can put one in debt well over $100,000.00 or so.. but over-all, it looks like people generally had a good experience . And I suppose everything is a gamble as it is. I know one fellow classmate who graduated with a degree in computational math, and passed a pair of actuarial exams. There are NO job opportunities for him, at least in this state, along the lines of actuarial work, anyway.. Myself, I tell this university I'm interested in being a math educator, and they roll out the red carpet.. Between what I get paid in the stipend, and if I work for them in the summer, I make at least what I did in my previous job..

Apprenticeships would count as well. Kinda like trade schools.. still recognized and all. Plumbers, electricians.. etc.. stained glass artists, etc. I think most apprenticeships rank with the quality of trade school, or even better.. Waysider, you can change your vote if you wish. Hit the little delete my vote button, and it will let you vote again. I'll also add an apprenticeship option

I added the associates option.

Note: this applies to ACCREDITED college work only. Other words, no degree mills.. VALID or RECOGNIZED technical or trade schools apply also, though they might lack accredidation- something like ITT, Devries or others, who actually have a GOOD reputation with employers. Skill centers may apply here.. especially ones who offer classes on behalf of certain employers. Corps program does NOT apply.. else we might get the same results as the previous poll.. This is the same format as the last poll. You may vote more than one answer.

Well.. its up to about twenty one now.. I did give a selection for people who LOVED it.. but apparently we don't have any of those in this particular audience.. another poll is in the works.. we will see how the results compare.

College

In four or five semesters.. I hopefully will have a masters in math..four semesters of teaching algebra. I would love to teach on a community college level.. algebra, trigonometry, calculus.. differential equations..

Education.. Mathematics..no mistake. That I know of.. :)

Thanks friend.. :)

Now whether "ms" parker has the answer to God, the universe, and everything, perhaps is a different matter..

might I add.. "I don't have a real problem with that..".. :)

That's why so much of poetry, or other works are timeless.. they left so many terms undefined.. a new generation comes around.. and with a completely different set of problems and conditions say.. "they really meant this.." even the Almighty did that with his own word, if one believes it.. One of the great figures in Bullinger's work was Gnome, or quotation.. the contexts "God's" words were forced into sometimes were entirely different than those in which they were composed.. at least at times..

Part of the problem is trying to define the Almighty.. in my opinion, anyway.. in Geometry and other disciplines.. there are undefined terms. You'd think a system of belief would fall apart with such a thing.. but it really doesn't.. you leave the term "point".. "line".. "set".. etc.. pretty much undefined in the system.. why? Perhaps because somebody can always come up with a better explanation..

Oh.. I didn't get the eight oclock class.. first class is like at 11am. Just early enough to still detect the hangover monday morning on frumpy appearing freshmen.. with the economy I think things might be a little different. The students might be a little more motivated than in the recent past.. I hope. plus a lot of universities are tightening up alcohol use policies for minors.. and most freshmen are under-age. Still, this place is known as a party school.. what larger public university doesn't have that reputation anyway.. I like the community college route.. the youngsters usually live at home, and get a year or two more supervision.. two years at the community college, then away two years to the big school. By that time, they have most of their basic classes done, and have half an idea why they are there..

In about two years.. by that time I will have a master's hopefully. And four or five rounds of teaching two sets of the same class with about thirty five students in each. Then I should be employable.. at least in the field I want to work in.. I don't know if I will have the stamina for the doctorate.. we'll see..