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Yep. And like from the BOARD.. whoever they are.. There's Pa.. Mac.. and Junior. Is that all? I don't think a "victim" of the program is entirely qualified to answer all these questions..

I wonder how much electricity costs per kilowatt hour from this little beauty.. no removal of sulfur or partiulates.. this is what people on the west coast are starting to breath. It kinda "wafts" across the Pacific ocean..

they are probably making plastic flamingos for wally mart.. naw. Can't be.. probably just a cigar smokers convention..

Considering China's love affair with coal, its probably just the garden variety coal mine wash water. The acidity is from sulfuric acid.. the red is probably from iron deposits. Then there's who knows what else.. chromium, cadmium.. lead..

and the guy with the bucket.. what does he want a couple of gallons of this for? maybe.. they need drinking water for restless westerners in hotels in downtown Beijing.. something to choke down that sulfur laden soup they call air..

I don't think we will have problems with bacteria in this water.. I could be wrong. Maybe its designer water, coloured to fit the décor of the elite in Europe.. but really.. WHAT IS IN THAT WATER?? I considered Chromium Red, but that's basically not solvable in water.. then notice the dog. Is the man with the bucket, his owner? If so, it is hard to believe he'd let his dog drink, let alone bathe in whatever it is.. maybe its china's solution to pet over-population..

In the mean time, congratulations on your accomplishment. Though I am still unclear exactly what it is..

Sorry if it feels like that.. actually, I started out with a few discrete questions to the "source". When they were not answered, the questions just kinda backed up, like a log jam or something.. Sowers grad.. maybe you could assemble these and present them to those who really ought to be answering these questions. I don't know if you are qualified to answer them as it is.. peace

which brings me to think.. What qualifications does the board have to even RECOGNIZE a "man of God" if they even ever saw one? vicster I, even with flagrant violation of biblical and moral standards, was regarded by them as a great "man of god".. and they promote another one, (potentially) like victer the first.. they've stroked his ego since day one.. probably a "nice guy".. as long as one STAYS on his "good side".. which brings me to another question: Were you free to ask/discuss anything in the program.. including details about the rotten underbelly of vic I and twi? Or would such "rebellion" be grounds for immediate dismissal? Feel free to forward these questions to the "board" if you wish. :)

another question.. on sowers property, is there a shrine, or monument dedicated to the memory of gramps, vp the first? Did they address the known facts that gramps was an alcoholic, and serial sex fiend? along with plagiarism.. that he stole his way into the "ministry", from Stiles, Bullinger, Leonard, and many others? they called gramps, a abusing drambuie soakedthieving sex fiend, "a great man of god" as well.. that when he wasn't otherwise pillaging God's people, he was a great manogawd.. I am left to assume that these are the opinions, and even "teachings" of the "elders" of your "church".. are my assumptions correct? Don't take this as questions asked in seething rage or something.. I'm really quite calm, and asking nicely here..

and while you're working on these.. here are a few more. Exactly who is on staff there? What kind of background do they have to perform this kind of work.. Did you at any time observe inappropriate conduct between staff and student? i.e. special favors, sexual advances, or even the appearance of these issues? What is the level of education of the staff? Or of yourself, before entering the program? Do you plan on furthering education? Do you think the sowers "training" all you need? How do you fulfil "going forth as leaders and workers".. where do you actually go? Are graduates given staff assignments? and one BIG question.. were you required to sign a "hold harmless" agreement? i.e., agree that if you were harmed by participating in program activities, that you relinquished your legal options for restitution?

Welcome to the Cafe. I have a few questions.. The sowers group appears to have an almost identical appearance to the old time way corps. how is this program any different? What kind of safeguards were put in place to protect student from teacher? The students appeared to have to walk a rather narrow line of "ethics".. and violation of even any unwritten mandate results in the possibility of immediate expulsion, and/or termination of the program. That describes the way corps experience.. how different here? How many times were you threatened to be sent home, or if the group didn't "muster up", that the program would be terminated? How many students actually WERE sent away? The "teachers" APPEAR to have the power over students like Almighty God. Their authority is final, their judgement summary. What RULES, if any, did they have to abide by? Were you ever asked (tantamount to a command) to perform any hazardous or dangerous activity as part of the program? Was anyone harmed by performing program activities? If so, what action was taken? What kind of housing was provided? Was it suitable, or did one just live in a tent for nine months? What were the classes (if any) that you participated in? If any, were they old pfal.. old ministry classes.. or cff materials.. or other offshoot materials? Who actually subsidizes the program? i.e. who supports it? Some offshoot ministry, or does it stand on its own two feet? Did "special teachers" from certain offshoots come in to give presentations and teachings from other groups? If so, what did they present, who were they.. where were they from? Does being a graduate of the program give one special assignments, or privileges, over others? As a graduate, what does one actually DO? Run a "fellowship"? Do you owe your very life to the "ministry that taught you the word"? Will "fellowships" funnel money ("abundant sharing") to the mother group? well.. I'll stop with these few.. I asked someone "in the know" once, and didn't get much response.. it might take a while. Don't feel rushed to answer them all at once..

Mustard.. I live for mustard.. The cat does not get mustard.. *They* (cats) demand that I wake up at seven AM.. *they* must be fed.. well.. one waits. Until about 8 or so.. It requires eggs.. well, two egg yolks..slightly cooked.. I get what's left over.. hehe

Then again.. rosie,on her death bed.. might summon him and offer him da keys to da kingdom or something.. Stranger things have happened.. and, like the ad at the bottom of the page.. I'd "show sympathy with flowers".. sometimes Google seems to "walk by the spirit"..

Perhaps.. well.. I've experienced a few "unusual" things within the last ten years.. no, they are not for sale.. I think people have to find their own nuttiness, on their own terms..

I knew them from West Virginia.. anybody know anything?

So they were at Rome City.. I thought they got shipped off far west or something.. anybody else know anything?

He got a masters degree (I think) at the university I'll be at in the fall.. wonder how he's doing..

You might think nine-thousand post here, somebody might have way too much time on their hands..

I almost put it on the laptop. I was there, DVD in hand.. I thought, I'll try just ONE LAST TIME to get windows to download updates..after fifty failed attempts, darn if it didn't do it.. I'm not kidding.. forty-nine big updates were pending.. it was cranking for at least three or four HOURS.. So if your Windows machine misbehaves.. apparently this is the cure. Acquire a Lynux install CD.. wave it close enough in a threatening manner..

glowing.. maybe they figured out the secret of Mop and Glow.. drink some, splash the rest on face..