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You marry the girl, generally, you marry the parents and extended family as well.. something to think about.

Happy Birthday friend! Hope you had a good day.. see you are 57. Don't feel old. You will be in one of your primes again.. two years from now in fact. :)

I think this describes a lot of the situation: http://bible.cc/2_chronicles/13-7.htm Jeroboam figured out he had no need of Solomon, or of Solomon's son either.. but don't inflate your ego too much.. you are by no means a Solomon, or Rehoboam.. but you'd be surprised how small a hill of beans people will fight over..

Why else do you think old grampa vicster the first ran crying to geero in scotland? I think PART of the story is true. In his dying days, he saw the political maneuvering, the subtle behind the scenes negotiations.. in short, his *men* (if one could call it that) were actually growing up, to be just like him.. and he was POWERLESS to seize the reins again. So off he went, to what he perceived as the strongest *man(?)* in the "ministry"..to get things "in line" again.. and his *men*, along with geero, ended up carving up *his* ministry, actually whole groups of PEOPLE, like a thanksgiving turkey.. your day will come, bub..if it lasts that long.. I hope you grow eyes in the back of your head..

and this is why your organization won't last. Its built on weakness. In my opinion, also a sickness. Laziness.. Proverbs 24:10 So you can't muster up enough strength to bring about a "revival" of old ministry "values".. so what to do? Find a group of "young men and women" who will take up the cause, FOR you..offer them the moon, of course with a few conditions.. while you stay safe, hole up in the mississippi swamp, barking orders from behind the lines.. eventually, they will grow up, and figure out they have no need for you.. and they will strip you dry.. if you survive that long.. you shoulda just gone back to school, bub..

*Gardeners.. to your implements..*

I dunno.. maybe you need another "gig"..

yep.. hard job, trying to herd "rebellious" "sheep" who've been fleeced and or possibly raped back to the "fold".. maybe you need better "feed".. "truth or tradition" stuff looks pretty rancid..

Proverbs 24:10 is appropriate here..

Yep. It's a hard life, confronting the world with da "word" and all.. you don't seem to be making much progress here. if you're tired and all.. maybe you need to get about ten to twelve followers, promise them an "excellent adventure", "professional" training in da word.. lots of sunshine, some work to do.. a "future(?)" in the organization if they are committed enough.. and after nine months, send them out to confront the world with da "word" for you..

yep. Life is always "easier" when everybody simply agrees with you..

I hardly say never.. but I think it applies here.. we will NEVER see anyone in "authority" in that organization publically answer questions, in an uncontrolled setting.. I think they have cut every last thread holding themselves to any kind of accountability, to anyone. Same as the parent organization. There is no debate. Period. It's looks like a paramilitary organization..and that's the impression they are ALLOWING me to have. they appear to use the same tactics.. send out "inductees" to do their dirty work. And sit back as lazy, overweight, "lords".. figuring how to move the pawns around.. I think that is a calm, reasonable, logical perception.. no, I don't think we will EVER see anyone give any real answers..

"That'll be over easy. forget the white.."

*some of us* are just suckers.. the mournful cry.. the big eyes..

I think vic's theology was only a symptom, or a sub-set of a larger disease.. sell PLAF and keep the abs running.. is a small microcosm of: sell cheap junk and keep the tax base (barely) running.. I think he made some "deals" with a few real "devils"..

So you DO cook the cats an egg (or two)..indirectly, that is..

I was actually being nice.. he was the first one from the group to offer a few answers.. who REALLY should be here doling out answers is.. the board. Whoever they all happen to be.. not this "young man".. if they had an ounce of honor that is.. it appears as the same ploy practiced by the old ministry.. send its "followers" out to take the brunt of hard questions.. hide in the safety of some corn field or farm swamp somewhere.. send out dictates (ahem, teaching cd's) once in a while.. As long as its humanly possible, NEVER put oneself in an uncontrolled situation. That seems to be where da "ministry" ended up, half way through to present.. Caleb, would you please kindly forward the questions to the board? Surely they would want to know peoples genuine concerns, and address them, wouldn't they?

I would much rather one of the (in my perception of reality based opinion) numbnuts that run the thing come and answer a few questions.. instead *they* (very well possibly) send this guy.. why? maybe.. to produce "living proof" that the world is out to persecute *them* or something.. "awwww, I was nice, and look what *they* did to me.." he's what.. 22 years old. Barely out of diapers.. if you don't mind the expression.. I don't think he has the capacity to know he was (more than possibly) manipulated.. Even if *they* didn't send him.. they KNOW he's been here by this time, unless they are entirely moronic and clueless.. at least in my opinion.. Maybe its his first post-program "witnessing" assignment.. but that's another question I'd like answered.. they just keep piling up..

Technically, what's the difference? It just seems to me, to do one, is to do the other.. to do the other, is to do the one.. according to loys rabid rants, there was quite a difference.. but I think the difference is in semantics..

The egg thing has been going on for weeks with the younger cat. But the last two mornings, the older female came up to partake of some.. and she seems far friendlier now. I wonder if that might fix a lot of your cat scaredy problems Twinky.. but with the younger cat, it absolutely HAS to be partially cooked. And she won't touch the white of the egg. The recipe goes: break open egg. cook over easy. remove egg from heat, pierce side, and drain liquid yolk onto platter. Present platter to cat. If you don't want to waste the other half of the egg, return to pan, cook slightly more, and consume. I usually do two eggs like this.. the one cats coat is now absolutely soft.. the older ones, while it wasn't bad to begin with, seems slightly softer after two days of this routine..

This cat absolutely LOVES me. The lady of the house tells me that egg yolk is like nectar to the cat.. The other two cats can be pretty indifferent, but the older female now eats a little egg.. almost cares less. But I have never had the amount of serious nuzzling, and affection from a cat as the one.. I wake up at night and the cat is "sponging" on whatever bare skin it might find.. It probably thinks I'm "mommy"..

One of the cats here, an irregularly marked tuxedo, gets one every morning. The egg must be over easy, and it consumes only the yolk. This cat was one of generations of ones fed on human food, I think.. it gets its "fix" with the egg, and generally leaves us alone the rest of the day.. You may vote more than one choice if you wish. As in, if you indeed would, and consider it a little crazy, you could vote 1 and 5.

Yep.. and a lot don't CARE. As long as the sulfur rolls over there.. not here.. seems the attitude is changing though. What gets peoples attention is the loss of jobs, money, etc. labor is so cheap, and regulation (or enforcement) is so non-existent "over there".. capitalism DEMANDS one shift operations to greener pastures. from the best estimates I can find on the web.. U.S. averages a little over 11 cents/kilowatt hour.. China, roughly 6. The blue ray player price has dropped to $99.00. It will be lucky to function for two years, and is basically unrepairable. I won't buy one..

my "true identity" is well known to *them*. I just have other places I'd rather a google search find my name, first. If you want my name, go to http://www.qrz.com type "kb8pgw" in the search box.. and you have it..

If it's noble and all.. I mean.. why the secrecy? It took a BLUNDER on the part on one particular poster to leak that mac is involved.. that its really his "baby".. Go ahead and leave a void.. I don't have much problem filling in blanks..