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I have never met anyone who could believe sufficiently to remove lipstick and teeth marks from the re-used styrofoam cups, either..

sounds like you are describing the particular flavor of the cat box..

ah yes. Rock of ages.. perhaps the most interesting moment.. we watched an Ohio crayfish crawl out of a hole in the middle of a barren (except for *miraculously* cut grass). the now ex gave the crayfish a blade of grass.. for what reason I have no idea. The crayfish seized said piece of grass.. was satiated for whatever reason, and returned to the hole from whence it came..

I think it was anti-pasto (no garlic) or was it anti-pastor..

Looking for a restroom.. hmm. I'd better not say..

as far as the "lasting forever" part.. if this were a different venue.. I'd have a few more things to say.. *they* never forget..

In a strange kind of way, I kind of get this.. and no.. I don't see it as any kind of justification for wickedness, or blaming the victim. Isn't it true though? I think it's like eating meat offered to idols.. the way the guy in that culture takes it.. is that if you eat, you are "screwed up"..

When I read the title of the thread.. to me it sounded like "yellow tape" of fear.. the little easily surmountable barrier to the scene of the crime.. actually.. isn't that what loy, donna and others put around scenes of "disaster"? their lack of believing allowed their kid to die.. or be maimed.. etc. etc. ?

hmmm. I wonder which came first, staff or safety. Kinda like the chicken and the egg argument..

DWBH didn't save any of the brown acid from woodstock, did he? wasn't bad acid.. just somebody got a little "generous" with the blotter I would think..

so it isn't my illusion only.. heh

I hope so.. maybe I'm just seeing things..

I just looked again.. it was still there.. the loyster at his "best"(?)..

"President of Greasespot?".. http://www.zoominfo.com/Search/PersonDetail.aspx?PersonID=13147815 Is this a joke? Paw.. don't tell me you sold us down the river..

I think I only had two (maybe 3) cars during my sojourns to herr holy ground.. one was a 1972 Chevy Brookwood station wagon.. no it did not leak oil, transmission fluid, etc.. but it was a friggin rust bucket.. then there was the 1982 escort hatchback.. It leaked oil like a sieve.. this vehicle was designed by devils, for sure.. it never made it on grounds.. that I can remember.. kinda surreal, eh? :) yeah.. nothing going on now.. all is quiet.. Yep.. seems they are sitting back, just waiting for all the goings on in the USA to just kinda go away.. why they want to bother Belgium.. now that's beyond me. Reminds me of an old old B movie.. I'll have to find the name..

I still want to know more about this miraculously cut grass.. is it anything like the miraculously clean parking lots? You know..have executive type assigned it's oversight.. an "all nine all da time" kinda fella.. *spiritual* enough to catch the deluge of oil and transmission fluid from wowmobiles, *ahem* waydisciplemobiles, into designated bins, before said contamination even hits the pavement..

Perhaps. I'm stretching my memory as well too.. but I can't remember a single publication where one could quote portions and say "what happened to your prediction?" I never heard the current psychological hoax tape. Maybe the Belezian group has a copy.. generally though, I think he chose these psychotic rants for noon meals and such, to more of a closed corporation. or "privileged" teaching for advanced class and such. Same idea..

Miraculously cut grass.. http://www.allmusicals.com/lyrics/camelot/finaleultimocamelotreprise.htm

You mention the other conspiracy theories of other sects. I think the main difference, in the case of twi and herr vicster, they simply were spoken, and not published. One can find past issues of spotlight, various sects predictions of the worlds end, etc.. I never remember seeing anything like this in the magazine, or vic's paid newspaper publications. The same goes for outrageous claims in classes.. the original sin, noah's supposed castration, etc. etc.. Perhaps the victoid didn't want to give the world concrete proof that he was a.. fraud?

Some of us were born too late.. :)

Yep.. or something..

Did the mrs. know it was a scam? Considering.. didn't she go to leonard's class as well? Also went to who was it in Florida about tongues with interpretation and prophecy.. the vicster mentions them.. forgot the name. Sure we won't find a footnote anywhere in the books.. I think she was well aware of the plagiarism.. and she did get some elevation in the organization.. maybe they enabled each other.. who knows.. just to me, it would seem if she didn't.. it would be like being married to Capone, and thinking everything was wonderful.. not having a clue of the booze, dope and killing.. perhaps at best maybe she rationalized the bad behavior like some of his "men"..

There were only two "successful" African Americans in twi that I can think of: L*nnel J8hnson and Claudette. I think L8nnel was ordained by vic.. don't know about claudette. That's two out of.. how many.. hundreds? Maybe there were a few others.. as far as liberty lobby and spotlight is concerned.. isn't it intriguing that the guy who said NEWSPAPERS were so darn "negative".. stories about murder, accidents, suicide, death.. were so "bad" for believing- which is a straw man to begin with- adopted different kind of "negatives"- stories of government takeover, murder, and intrigue? maybe vic should have put his newspapers and periodicals down for a while, and read the bible..

I wonder how many takover theories the sowers were subjected to..

Hmm Good point.. preaching to the trees, and letting farm animals to to hell in a hand basket, so to speak..