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It's a long way home..
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hmm.. "be warmed and filled"..
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John Lynn's recent email
Ham replied to pawtucket's topic in Spirit and Truth Fellowship International
or if not, give it (the stockpile) to me. I'm sure I could find a few good uses for it.. -
John Lynn's recent email
Ham replied to pawtucket's topic in Spirit and Truth Fellowship International
I dunno.. maybe he could get a job working for the sowers, or cff.. or Geero's outfit.. I wonder if he really believes this.. and what I'd like to know.. what does Martin Luther have to do with any of this? really.. -
maybe that's the whole point. Ever consider the creator wants to be debated? Maybe he just chose to be *us*..
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which is a good point. But I'll add.. the "Shepherd" has to be a heck of a lot smarter than me. i.e... he must find me. I've tried the scenario the other way around.. I'm not denying His existence or anything.. life is too big to be about just *me*.. I mean.. He has to be bigger than me, doesn't he? Or at least I would hope..
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I dunno.. maybe the pendulum has swung far in the other direction for me, or maybe not.. Is it possible to be independent enough that one refuses to define the creator anymore? I mean.. I tried that once, or was that twice, or three times..
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my opinion of *mr* cummins sinks lower from where it was before.. oh well..
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currently I am seriously considering the implications of this..
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I love this story.. :) I like this one too..
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angry.. hmm. to *them*.. I say.. proverbially anyway. "don't go away mad. Just go away.."
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On a mission from God.. Don't get me wrong.. but JL doesn't resemble either of these characters..
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and I think that is IT. I can live with my "skewed" perspective. Weird stuff.. but I don't have to agree even with myself.. maybe "seriously troubled" isn't that so far off the mark..
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at least on the large scheme of things..
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I dunno.. maybe we were sent just to observe this.. any intervention I've tried has had rather minimal effect..
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"famous people".. hmm. No, I don't think jl is "famous". Maybe he could have been.. but his claim to "fame" is being a "leader(?)" in a little itty bitty second rate organization.. da way, it was.. if anything, I think people here are holding out an offer or NORMALCY to him.. you know.. a place where his laundry does not smell any better than anyone elses.. well, its a thought.. Personally.. I think he was damaged worse than a lot of us in the old organization. Why? He will never admit it.. but that brings us back to the "full sharing" issue. I usually don't claim absolutes, but I don't think it will ever happen..
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might because when I was a young ham, I wallowed in a patch of poison ivy. Then came the (practically) endless regimen of shots of various steroids and such.. and that was back in the days they really weren't so good finding a good vein to put said re-used dull needle into.. (yes, they actually reused them. They put them in some kind of sterilizer..) probably kept me away from heroin in the "old days"..
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I dunno Geo.. some of us need a hobby. I don't think the problem is having a hobby.. I think it's trying to SELL it.. i.e. making money off of it.. as far as any of my own personal beliefs regarding bigffoot, flying saucers, Buddhism, numerology.. ahem, well, no, I've never subjected myself to acupuncture, it might be my inate aversion to needles.. any current model I have of the universe is not any more or less illusionary than anyone elses..
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and j.l. scouring the countryside for sustenance.. going to one "twig" after another for donations.. Maybe I've said enough..
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I've seen all of this before.. again and again, on an individual as well as organizational level.. I dunno.. isn't that kind of living in a "worthless" manner? I mean.. one wants the connection.. the love, the benefits, and no or little personal sacrifice or cost? kinda "selfish" if one would ask me.. "full sharing"? Bah.. .
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I dunno.. just looking at it.. doesn't the organization itself appear for lack of better words.. "schizophrenic"? I'm not saying *they* aren't "nice people" or anything.. and the *organization*.. "firing" or having a "mutual parting of ways" with jl.. isn't that not unlike the Frankenstein monster strangling its own creator?
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what about the concept of "full sharing".. even by their terms? just seems to me.. in that respect, they are sorely lacking.. I don't see how a "need to know" qualifies as "full sharing". damage control.. enough information to keep the following from haemorrhaging.. doesn't exactly qualify does it?
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somehow it all seems "insane".. they claim to live their lives "transparently".. in da lovagawd and all.. but somehow, one is not supposed to look behind the transparent undies and all.. it just doesn't add up to me.. maybe you could explain it in less "biblical" terms..
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somehow I thought they were a church or some kind of public entity. *They* really can't have a personal life, now, can they? and all this nonsense, about how their "operation" of the "gifts of the spirit" can't be "corrupted" as they say with "character faults".. ? to which I would say.. "wanna bet sucker?" like some have said, one can't have your cake and eat it too.. so.. the way I read all of this.. *they* are a public entity, as long as the cash keeps rolling in.. but DARE touch their "private" lives, and lines are drawn.. friggin MORONS. They will never "get it"..