Ham

I dunno.. maybe your "symptom" is mislabelled. Distrust that is. From what I've seen.. generally, it's a conditioned response. Reinforced by *rewards*.. *punishment*.. *they* are *different*.. *they* are not to be *trusted*.. especially with one's spiritual life or something.. *we* have been *conditioned* to recognize surely what happens to one who trusts *them*.. and it's supposedly not *pretty*.. it took me nearly three years to overcome this response that someone who believed in the trinity, or believed the dead to be alive, to be *seriously* compromised, "influenced".. or some such nonsense.

which suggests to me there is a whole heck of lot more "dirt" than one could dream of. The "dirt" that came out with the lawsuits, depositions, etc was bad enough.. That would explain the *extreme* paranoia, at least to me.. perhaps they know far more than we know.. wait till l*nder gets a raw deal, or p*ssed off enough.. or something. Notice I didn't say "grow a conscience" or anything.. that might be asking too much..

Hmmm. Now that makes me wonder.. How much money is funnelled into HQ from the internationals? If they are indeed taking a "share" of what's given.. isn't that kinda like missionary work being practised in reverse?

soo.. why does she have a stffi bumper sticker on the back of a vehicle.. If I didn't want to be involved with the drama, the intrigue.. the strife, the division.. the ungodliness.. personally.. as a "grown adult".. the LAST thing I'd want is.. to have their advertisement on my vehicle..

so.. they "break even".. I dunno. was it "worth it"? I'd ask the participants.. what did you "learn" that was substantially different from what you knew before? Was it.. for 195.00.. you find yourself reaffirming the same old stuff taught long ago in twi? Not that I'm expecting an answer.. but it would be nice.

If you need it in the form of a "personal prophecy".. "thus seth da lord. Get off your lard asses.. go out in you driveways or high valued garages.. pull the damn sticker off your cars.." don't believe me? You're on your own.. blood isn't on MY head.. I've said and all..

I really hope "without natural affection" is not yet another charge to lay at your feet..

Especially.. if they have no clue.. TAKE the DAMN STFFI bumper sticker off your car.. really.. it just happens to be a small world.. there are LOTS of folks who seem to be: Dissatisfied, but civil.. Disappointed in you and your "product".. Deeply offended.. Hostile, through your arrogance.. Hostile, and UNEMPLOYED. Because of your nuttiness.. If I saw a $90,000 vehicle with such a sticker, the way I'd read it: "paid for by STFFI". Not that I would personally care. You only got about $15.00 of my cash, and that's total.. Use some common sense morons.. right now, I wouldn't want my kid in a vehicle with your advertisement on it.. I hope this isn't "too negative" or something..

without commenting on "right" or "wrong".. isn't it at least INTRIGUING.. the the "opportunity" presented itself.. If I were those guys.. I'd tear the friggin bumper stickers off their high valued vehicles.. do you see where this is going? if you INSIST on being that screwed up.. don't advertise it on your kid's car..for crying out loud.. the "opportunity" just might just present itself, in far less than such a harmless scenario..

As long as they let me come with my very ripe tomatos..

That's the whole point isn't it? If he wasn't at least (publicly) a "good guy".. he would not garner much following, would he? it might be an extreme comparison.. but even Capone wouldn't have "made it" to where he was at in the "organization" without befriending at least a few people.. I really think some are making the same mistake they made in the old organization: basing their judgement of character on persona.. the vicster could turn on the charm.. even loy, in rare moments.. some of you guys have been "played"..

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Naw.. Perhaps they need to be subjected to the same treatment as other kinds of flim flam artists. I think in some minds, the God label somehow gives them immunity. Can't speak "evil" or anything..

heh.. well, hang around *most* offshoots, and eventually you will witness a geerish megalomaniac, vp wanabes, or a meltdown, after dueling prophecies at twenty paces. Along with all of the elitism or worse of the old organization.. The "problem" with getting involved with an offshoot, *they* can't bring themselves to even imagine they are seriously "wrong".. doctrinally or practically. Generally.. I've seen the same mindset.. "it's been RESEARCHED.. now just believe.." or something like that.. so off they go, polishing the vicster's gold plated turds..

Awww...

Not unless you plate it with gold..

My brother sent me this.

hmm. I think that the twi expectations of "the man" set a lot of "men" up for failure, and set a lot of women up for disappointment.. just a thought..

why do I have the suspicion that this proposed meeting will be cancelled do to weather, sickness, or some other such excuse.. and if it does happen.. I'd be surprised if they made it past that first question..

After the current situation "resolves itself".. I would put my money on twi being a heck of a lot larger..

Lately, it would appear so. In the worst possible connotation..

At this point, it appears the stffi's have spit out the fish, and choked on the bone..

Naming that place "Camp Vision".. isn't that choice of a name kinda.. what's the word..not Ironic.. it's the converse of an Oxymoron..

Does anyone know how many attended?