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Where is one of Rassilon's filthy bow ships when one needs one.. sweet dreams, everyone..

I'm really starting to think they are some kind of modern day vampires.. can't live in the light of day.. draining the blood and life out of anyone who will stand still long enough, mesmerized by their religion.. well, I have a vivid imagination. Make of it what you will..

if they would sacrifice jl (rightly or wrongly) on the altar of their unclean organization, what do you think they'd do with YOU, the ordinary follower.. off the boat you'd go in a heartbeat.. they are momentus "grads" for crying out loud.. what better would you expect of them?

hmmmm. It was a "momentus" moment.. they killed the (another) victim..

Oh, I forgot. The questions were addressed to jl.. seems he was a victim of a bizarre momentus lifeboat experience, left over from the old days. who's left there who can answer questions?

So.. its been what.. two whole years and a couple of months.. and STILL there is no accountability? No real explanations.. nothing? But they hold the "followers" accountable.. to "give as much as they can.."

I wonder.. does he consider himself a modern day "levite"? At this point, anybody STILL willing to throw money their way, I question said persons sanity..

Thought it proper to pull up the first post on this thread. Its been what.. over two years? No real reply, yet?

Seems this is an almost long forgotten thread.. still, is the crisis over yet fellas?

Maybe you need to hire ole Rico to inform your followers of all the peas and peanuts or something.. I'm sure he's freelancing now..

the words that come to mind.. would probably get the administrators onslaughts of objections of indecent language.. so how did the big "meeting" go, fellas? I didn't see any report on the stffi website.. no real news here.. whatsup?

I honestly.. can't see why ANYBODY would spend one more measly, lousy cent on that organization.. does j.s. actually have people brainwashed to the extent they believe he REALLY has some kind of "ministry".. prophet, or apostle.. or some such? compare the sower and the podcast.. "nobody else is teaching christians how to really live da word.." "you're not giving enough.." how much longer will people buy into this scam? I'm with Oldskool on another thread.. let them get a day job, and publish their little letters and podcasts on the weekends.. Oh. Maybe with their "developed" job skills, they can't get a job..

at this point.. at least for me this is a given.. non negotiable.. whatever He, She, or Whatever he/she/it happens to be..

So.. in other words, they are Lords (or Lordettes).. so.. you (innies) serve the Lords.. what do the Lords do for you? save you from what? I know, I know.. they save you from gluttony.

personally, I don't see what is wrong with "zero". Its as good an integer, as any other.. I've seen other people go through the same thing and come out believing that there is no God.. I can't exactly say the same. I just can't define Him or Her or What in my or anyone else's terms any more.. nor do I feel an inclination to do so..

with da way's "kinder' and "gentler" rein of rosie, I wonder if poor mr allen will wake up somewhere in Cincinatti, with no idea why he is there, or where he came from..

be afwaid, Howard, vewy, vewy afwaid..

Congratulations..

Roy, I sent you some peace, I hope you got it..

now.. as far as "are you still searching for the truth".. I found it once. No, not in way days.. stone, cold sober, I looked it in the face for about .95 seconds.. and it nearly burned my skin off.. funny, it didn't really hurt.. what if you found EVERYTHING you believed to be totally WRONG.. that's nice an all.. but what do I do now, with the few years left..

Here's a few documents.. their organization has been one "psychodrama" after another.. warring prophecies.. absolute nuttiness.. http://www.greasespotcafe.com/main2/the-off-shoots/christian-educational-services/ here is the section on Greasespot forums, dedicated just for STFFI.. http://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/forum/68-cesstfi/ its been decades of nuttiness.. a circus, that continues as long as people are willing to pay the entrance fee..

Looking back.. In my opinion.. both sides (da way and jp) both were absolutely INSANE. The way's "trustees" swore they would take care of the mrs to her dying day.. and then loy was absolutely merciless in regards to the family.. drove them to the four winds.. jp played "old believers" conscience on this to unheard heights (or depths if you will).. rosie the usurper set a WOMAN as representative, over the family.. I think jr's attitude toward women wasn't much different than pops was.. da way actually had a few good points.. if you think you can provide proper care for an Alzheimer's patient in your home, by all means, go right ahead.. I think their observations as to jp's motives have born themselves out.. not that I agree with their motives either.. what I DON'T understand.. is why they haven't gone after jp, mac, the un-named "board" along with vic's namesake, for copyright infringement. Maybe the new corps deal doesn't have enough money worth going after, yet..

I think once you've had one class, you've really had them all.. same kind of analysis of the bible, same doctrines.. if you were disenchanted by one, you may find you will be disenchanted by them all.. I think CFF is at least currently fairly beneign. Can't say the same for Schoenheit, STFFI/CES et al..

I've left the welcome mat out, and the light on.. hasn't come, yet. Maybe I'm intergalacticly known as a bad host.. maybe I ought to hang out a "free beer" sign or something..

I can't say it does not exist.. I just don't try to define it in my terms any more.. if it cares to come up and bite me in the a**.. well, that would be ok.. other than that, I'm not going out of my way beating through the shrubs and bushes trying to find it..