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and I am (or wasn't) trying to be mean or beat you, Mr. Socks over the head with anything here.. as far as "mainstream" or lack thereof.. I cannot include one's beliefs with my choice of friends. Now there has to be some reasonable assumptions. 1. You are not willing to burn, stab, shoot or otherwise assault me on account of my beliefs.. and most of the time that seems to be asking far too much of a lot of people.. I can't make friendships or connections based on belief. Past failures convince me of that.. Who gives the control? Well.. in the USA it's supposed to be a fee society and all.. the individual either affirms or disaffirms the control that one party exercises over another.. sometimes with or without consequences.. as far as "controlling oversight".. it was SUPPOSED to just be a bible study.. some group reading a book to try to get a little bit of truth and make some sense out of it..

but with the JW's.. wasn't there an evolution as to who was "the best"? I mean.. you start with da 144000.. faithful followers, sons of the sons of Israel.. and what happens when you have more followers than slots to fill? well.. mathematically there is something called the pigeonhole principle.. you have more slots than selections.. then some selections won't have slots to fill.. what do you do with the ones that don't "fit"? well.. maybe one has to dream up different slots for them to occupy.. can't all be clergy.. maybe some can be staff.. or Branch coordinators.. or just go through three grueling years to have the coveted "twig coordinator" position.. sounds like the same thing to me..

It was kind of "cool".. I was da Squirrel incognito.. rescued from da den of lions.. I have much more to say, but all that is just the result of a vivid imagination..

Perhaps. But I think what doesn't get lost in the comparison is "too-much-Wayfer-like-must-Sux". It's like.. perhaps one has an isolated, non-mainstream dogma one adheres to.. fine. Doesn't bother me at all.. but then one adds a controlling oversight for the "standard" (whatever or whoever that is) follower.. and it starts smelling a little bit like a cod left on the dock a little too long.. then ultimatums from the pulpit, how devilish holders of different opinions have become.. kind of like.. the very last offshoot meeting I attended. No kidding. The "main teaching".. it was during an election year. "Now these liberals are so... spiritually compromised.. *they* are not like *us*.. who know da *truth*.. You'd think they'd just scooped up the flounder, or whatever indistinguishable sea creature it was and properly disposed of it.. but in the good old USA.. NOOOOOOOOOOOO.. it went further. "they are at the least influenced by da prince of darkness.. maybe even infested with debil spirits.. they might not turn homo today, or tomorrow.. but..." the most "unsettling" thing here.. a half dozen of supposed educated people sat, heads bobbing in affirmation.. I was one of them. I left the room while not turning my back.. my head bobbing as well.. and never went back..

I could derail my own thread further.. hey.. if if goes onto some crazy colored bus.. I'd go in a moment.. there are those who can't forgive me.. for doing something I never did.. Interesting or not? It's just the way it is.. I'm sorry I couldn't be gawd almighty.. I tried.. believe me.. Yeah.. I wish I could fix everything.. :)

Kesey spiked it with the absolute finest that Sandoz laboratories had to offer at the time.. he described Owsley's interpretation as something like second rate.. or the best that one could come up with at the time.. the Government always has the best drugs..

Not bad. It must have been "Venison Chile.."

Just a bit of trivia.. did you know the guy who produced Chicago.. in earlier days produced "Shoes for Industry"

Lamm must have been an acid head..

perhaps that's the whole point.. I know a few.. who on the other end of this existence will be kicking themselves in their own rear..

yeah.. but the unwritten rule in the last several centuries, among *some* bibleticians.. scripture is to be read, composed about.. never played.. it never seems to interface with reality.. in terms of the "mathematical exactness" and all.. yep. "rightly divided"..

Very good comments.. very intriguing.. the power to "forgive".. is too much power in my hands.. very very interesting..

It's amazing the sources you find a little bit of truth.. *A Parable* "Imagine a society in which the citizens are encouraged, indeed compelled up to a certain age to read(and sometimes write) musical scores. All quite admirable,. However this society also has a very curious law-few remember how it all started- and the disturbing law: Music must never be listened to or performed!" This was from Tristan Needham in his preface to Visual Complex Analysis, regarding mathematics.. isn't this what we've had for one century after another..

ha! My offspring has the chance of dying in some kind of advanced mathematics stillbirth.. good luck to you.. hope you get what you want and need..

Heh.. in my case, they are damned lucky.. can't claim that for the rest of da spirits..

I dunno.. it seems to take more power than *self* to perform this forgiveness.. for the most part.. I had a dream several nights ago.. it was about a character who I owed a stinking insignificant $10.00 he took a post dated check I had written and crossed out the date.. it ended up costing me $110.00 + including court costs..

I love forgiveness.. just don't take it back.. forgiveness.. is for lack of better words.. some serious s*it.. do you forgive.. or not.. what is it that you are forgiving for, and why? I won't say where *true* forgiveness, from other parties would logically end up at.. but I was not malevolent, only clueless..

I dunno. Seems kind of *odd*.. in love with a dead man.. including Schoenheit.. Lynn.. "nobody.. does it better.." maybe it was their first "experience".. The victoid didn't just screw a lot of women.. he screwed a lot of men too..

Yeah.. he(?) showed her(him?) the night of his(her) life. decades later they still are still in love..

Ha! well.. chrissy poo is just an old woman.. laid once long ago, by herr vicster.. sowie.. it's just an impression I have..

rosie the Terrible would win before the bell sounded in the first round.. she(?)'d have Chrissy Poo by the same appendages she had loy by.. she's a man's woman.. or is that a womans man.. or is it something else..

I'm still trying to figure out mathematically what it it is to have, to begin with..

I can only hope they do.. thanks friend..