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Perhaps.. but then maybe they've taken the position let the buyer, or cult inductee beware..

Oh yeah! gawd forbid it was the guy quoting the bible and barking orders.. da mog should have been the first front, if they were honest.. but he was immune from that.. for the most part. The WORST I heard any say in the organization- "well, his walk isn't exactly perfect.."

You know. a moggy type, behind the wheel.. a long drive off a short pier..

The four fronts of da adversary.. I think they were distractions, or explanations of evil which had another face- da mog..

so they don't teach them practical management nowadays. Or ethics. Or greek, hebrew, or aramaic. Or church history. What about figures of speech? They still have flossing 101 I understand.. So what's the purpose here? they apparently are not looking for the most bright, most capable..

so with all of this "dumbing down" not only "spiritually" but in practical matters.. this suggests to me that they aren't in the "business" of training leaders anymore.. No, no leaders. Nothing new, innovative. rosie runs them off like there's no tomorrow..

this is pretty much the standard course, customized for business. Legitimate colleges have equivalent ethics courses for the engineering sciences as well.. along with social sciences.. medicine, etc.. why does da way seem to think they are exempt from this? the only lessons in ethics they seem to get are from high power lawyers..

amputated spirituality.. interesting.. maybe it's like a lizard.. if it loses its tail, it grows back.. or has the capacity to. But it isn't exactly the same tail.. maybe I'm looking for the perfect religion.. Where one is not perpetually an outsider, no matter how dedicated a follower can become.. where friendships are not based on a particular belief, or lack of.. or based on performance.. or one's income..

sure showed them, didn't he?

I figured that.. some of us were more handsome I guess..

well.. nobody ever played that card on me. i.e. you know how to get a job.. get along with obnoxious people.. because of.. DA WAY.. so you owe your life to subservience in da corpse.. maybe they just didn't want unclean squirrels fowling the water or something..

the whole problem here.. that forget the almighty in all of this. If one were almighty.. it would never be too big of a stone for Deity to move.. are you REALLY that big? fair question I think.. all I can say.. if you CHOOSE to be that big.. BE that big.. yeah.. we've all been an offence, to someone, somewhere.. There are 200,000 loose ends.. I'll never be able to really wrap up in this existence.. not that I haven't tried. I really think.. forgiveness. is some serious s*it.. don't give it so freely.. if you give it, you owe it.. it really isn't some kind of trump card.. or wild card, one can snatch back when conditions are convenient..

ha! and I'd agree. "sorry, you placid, fowl undescript sonofabitch.. I'd have to kick your a**".. at this point, as far a HUMANS are concerned.. it seems an impossible venture.. forgiveness, that is.. why offer it? just a thought. why offer what you cannot produce.. is it a carry over of "da bible (blue book) tells me so"? No, I'm not mocking.. I'm really trying to figure this out.. though that's not guaranteed either..

Very good thought..

Leave no man behind.. what about the pets? if they don't go.. I don't go.. right. They are *lesser(?) than us.. I tend to think inductively. the almighty has time for.. anything but lesser(?) creatures.. I'm pretty lesser.. I mean.. you have to figure in.. who is going to change the cats box.. what makes you think humans are any less .. what's the word.. convenient to have around.. maybe I'm just looking at another paradox..

I've tried reading all of this.. but it was hard to keep up.. maybe.. the whole point is.. it's over, when it's all over.. what does one say then.. ha! give me a few more minutes here..

to me its not bad. This stuff plays in my head randomly at times.. without much prompting.. generals suck.. well, there were a few that didn't.. Patton wasn't so bad, when he wasn't misunderstanding shell shock.. the unrelenting pounding of artillery turned some people's brain into mush.. couldn't figure that out I guess..

Seems a lot of unanswered questions here.. so JB.. JL.. JS.. is the crisis *over*.. or is it just set on "simmer"..

yeah.. we end up singing the blues..

:) I'd say more.. digging away.. the moments that make a dull day.. fritter and wasting.. Might be off topic.. maybe not.. I've always loved that music.. I think they explored rather closely.. what drove Sid Barret into the clutches of insanity.. most of us seem to be able to emerge mostly unscathed..

does one have to sink, or be one of the principal parties responsible for the sinking.. before they quit giving said person another one.. of course, it doesn't take a whole heck of a lot of incompetence to sink a motor coach. Just a fool who thinks he deserves a drivers license..

did anyone ever find anything on the other side?

Now that's probably why I never went in da corpse. *whatever* they had to offer was never precisely, or even hazily defined. . wow was pretty much(?) defined.. grow ten years spiritually(?) or something.. I saw a few people get favorable results. Besides being Hitler (ahem) vic youth, I did manage to acquire a few skills.. learn how to GET A JOB.. how to get along with people who weren't exactly the same as me.. though that really wasn't a *problem* before.. I could live on macaroni, peanut butter and tripe again, if I had to.. if they ran even THAT right.. they would have had some *serious* exit counseling.. i.e. whadda I do now.. "go back to school bub.. get a degree.. do something damned serious with your life.." but instead.. I watched as they culled the *best* of the group for.. *drum-roll*.... way corps *training*.. very, very interesting, no? I was sent to observe.. perhaps da way should inquire about the final draft here..before it is respectfully submitted..

so.. they are basically sending da "flock" into what they would term a den of lions.. I really understand the mentality here. I also was part of the organization once.. curious. How old are those in the group? What kind of *overseers* and how old are they? any college graduates among them (way corpse training need not apply here)? High school graduates? Anybody who is/was working on a profession, a career?