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very intriguing. so.. it seems that forgiveness, often is impossible. It comes with the little strings.. and do you REALLY forgive, or don't you.. as well as apologies.. do you REALLY offer it, or don't you.. humans are sooooo screwed up.. I had a dream about half a year ago.. it was about one character who changed a date on a check I had written.. he got his ten bucks. It cost me about $200 in court costs.. so what do I do, what do I say? "Rot in hell, you dirty sonsabitch.." so interesting.. they sometimes come to us after they are dead.. "you ....ed me off fella.. but it was only a few dollars.." go in peace, friend.. christ.. I wonder who I owe.. other than student loans.. they will have to send a *special* emissary to collect from me. no problem.. I'm SURE there's enough in my Social Security account to cover it.. it should at least cover three times the debt..
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how about this. Wikipedia giving the context.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_Queen I can't remember the next song.. it was every bit as wonderful.. what was it..
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Christians, Muslims and Jews, oh my!
Ham replied to sirguessalot's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
and that is wonderful.. I would rather stumble over the block, instead of trying to sell it.. -
It was the same thing, wasn't it?
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I wonder how the loyster feels about this now. That is, the *private* information aired in public. Castrated by rosie.. the sexual "indiscretions" that make him ENTIRELY unfit to be da bigwig over any legitimate corporation. Not to mention the unfitness to be a personal "trainer" for ANYBODY.. unfit. the "road trips" with p*n*rello.. to gawd knows where.. I wonder if he has any personal feelings in this regard.. maybe he doesn't care. maybe he's proud of the audaciousness of "da good old days.." and the poor character he was largely responsible for driving to suicide.. if it isn't "incorruptible seed".. going to heaven, all hell not being able to stop one from going.. what are the alternatives?
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I think the book was at least born in plagiarism. the vicster started out with the day Jesus Christ died, three days three nights, others crucified.. cry of triumph, all of which were "refinements" of bullinger's work, except for the last one.. no idea where he got that from. Oh yeah, lamsa. then he gets his "research(?)" team to fill in the blanks. very, very carefully.
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too damned tough.. where to (or do I not) belong.. scary question..
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:) that is the whole point, isn't it.. as far as myself is concerned.. I've weighed the cost.. the stupid sonsofabitches.. could have had somebody with a few smarts on staff.. their loss, not mine. Now the problem is.. to figure out where I belong.. *it* could have been a world class whatever it could have been.. who am I supposed to be..
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The same disease of greed, discrimination, hatred, arrogance, deceit and egotism that plagues "business" seems to have infiltrated the ranks of the hallowed "new, dynamic dummies".. and its all over a paltry what.. 17 million or something? such a small hill of beans for such obnoxious behavior..
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But to stay on topic. Da way, is to modern christianity, what wally mart is to da economic world.. they epitomize the philosophy of wally world in a religious sense.. "what did YOU pay for da verd.." apparently not a hell of a lot.. it was on sale. Isle 9. sorry, you shouldn't have asked.. New and dynamic.. who says thats always a good thing? It's like the "change" of unbridled capitalism.. along with its corresponding race to the bottom.. least overhead, least amount of morals to produce..
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I dunno.. well. If it had to be on a certain "sabbath".. and they needed some wine for the wedding.. heck, he wouldn't have to buy it now, would he? I think (without being too damned egotistical..) he'd say. "so they have the *deal* for $5.99 meds. You live as you must. You walk through the doors.. make your purchase.. and get the hell out of there as fast as your legs can carry you.." no cut flowers for da missus, grown in the most fertile of Indian soil, while others starve.. no blue ray, born in China.. produced by the cheapest electrical energy coal, along with that which high sulfur emissions and slave labor can provide.. I think he'd kick the s*it out of the modern world market..
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if you are christian.. maybe a good question to ask would be "where would Jesus shop?"..
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This was the first version of the song I heard..
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Its because we have an eternal cat here. it has its advantages, disadvantages.. "necromancy".. ha! I only have two dead cats buried in the back yard.. I hope Jesus doesn't drop kick them in the after-life.. hopefully they are doing cat things, that they enjoy..
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I was thinking of this..
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Christians, Muslims and Jews, oh my!
Ham replied to sirguessalot's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
what I wonder is.. how scientology.org ends up with a google ad at the bottom of the page with this kind of discussion.. ha. Maybe they are only 2/3 wrong.. -
Christians, Muslims and Jews, oh my!
Ham replied to sirguessalot's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
It was a nice(mostly) Jewish lady who asked me that question. What would you do.. well.. first thing.. I'd forgive all those who tried to sell me a pale substitute to the truth, or untruth, or whatever it was.. she says.. "you are quite generous". its all part of this present "trip".. is it not? one step of wrongness after another.. I thought about that today.. "I'm tired of being wrong all the time.. " maybe its just what comes with participating in this existence.. rosie, deslile.. and whoever is still there.. they are still in kindergarten.. -
Christians, Muslims and Jews, oh my!
Ham replied to sirguessalot's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
I didn't read every reply here.. but.. what if you found out one day that EVERYTHING you believed was wrong.. what would you do.. the Rabbi on another thread that Abi quoted may well be on the way.. ga*d bless him.. which,who,whatever that (he/she/, I can't say it..) is.. I can envision it.. Jews, Christians, Muslims, Wiccan adherants (to whatever that might be at the moment or not).. what about the Incan culture and theology? Native Americans? but wouldn't it be nice.. everybody tripping over one another.. "I was wrong brother..".. "no! it was me!" "Nawwwww.. you guys have no clue as to wrongness.." I'll be the first. all I have is an impression in my consciousness.. whether it is self-induced, or acquired otherwise.. could be argued.. but call it any name you want to.. it does tend to be a mixture of a lot of others just like me.. -
maybe I shouldn't say more.. It's been *kazillions* of years. The physicists in our era are starting to figure out how long.. which is really *cool*.. but what's happened since then? Well.. we've meandered about the cosmos.. formed groups, committees, alliances, agreements.. and the general rule is we don't remember the lifetime that came before.. or the mindless (sometimes) committees and agreements.. scary thoughts, no? I dunno. Maybe its nuts.. but how about anybody elses religion? I don't think there is not a single individual here.. that does not have some impression of what it was like to come into this existence.. I love this place.. it is probably one of the fewest places in the world that fundamentalist (fill in the religious blank) don't try to beat the snot out of me..
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ha! well. there are some thoughts of those among us.. we are all a product of spilling of some of God's blood.. now wouldn't every drop, however small, be rather unique? they broke the mold, every time one of us came to be.. I really don't think we had a creator, who envisioned a multitude of mini mes.. I think it was far too great a sacrifice for something so non consequential..
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Don't "chuck it" on my account.. :) other beliefs admit or allow what they call "walk ins". walk ins to this existence.. generally, the thought is that whatever consciousness, or entity the person was, is no more. At least here.. is this generally the same as the concept of "born again"? apparently to them it is.. I saw an interview of some guy.. the body was terminally ill.. and the claim was that he abandoned the body.. "something" took his place. The "something" knew enough about some herbal remedies and stuff.. the former "owner" didn't have a clue. Couldn't speak chinese either.. but this character, who or whatever he/it/she/they is/was/were.. knew where to go to find the cure.. just a few thoughts. maybe I should have been a little more careful with my wording.. seeds generally do define themselves.. They just are what they are..
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Maybe its just a matter of not being able to teach an old cult new tricks..