Ham

no, it wasn't *me*..

I've only had that "opportunity" in my dreams.. I met the character who introduced me to da way in a dream last night.. I kept finding more and more vile crap to spit out.. at least, in the dream, it was something solid I could expel, and distance myself from..

so what is MY "defense".. this is it. I was, and am, 100 percent, totally, wrong.. do whatever you need to do with me..

somebody here will figure out the *correct* answer (and have had read Kesey's Garage Sale) no. Don't use the Mercaptan argument. We all stink. There isn't really much to be done about that.. Cmon, Mr IAM. I am trying to coach you with your defense..

Pretend.. I'm the delusional Mr. Hammerquist.. (OMG.. the parallels one could draw here.. and the similarity of the situation..) stand in front of you with a rather large softdrink bottle in hand, and you, seated.. defenseless. what kind of response do you have to "blow my mind"? don't even think of the Mercaptan argument..

that song is wonderful. I think there are some among us who can't say "the word" and be free.. It happened to me once.. I lost everything..

I'm still laughing.. for some unknown reason? A wine steward? difficulty climbing the stairs? the "unknown" problem was because the wine was in the cellar..

where did Waysiders post go?

cmon Mr. IAM, vic's *men*.. You have a Kangaroo Court of Squirrels ready to render what's the word.. summary judgment against you.. Lets be nice. at LEAST the question has to be asked..

Yes, us Squirrels were sent here to "observe".. we've made our observations.. as if the almighty really NEEDS advisors.. heh. No.. Everything has to be done by Queen's rules I guess.. any final pertinent details for the "report"? *Mr* Iam, do you have anything else to say in your defense?

At least Crowley was honest.. no really. He thought.. and please correct me if my take isn't exactly right here.. that one can practice evil, to the extent that everything works out as good in the end.. some people still follow this character as well.. but in regards to vic, it is the same thing. At least in my opinion.. he (practically) fully embraced evil.. and all some here seem to be interested in are the final "results"..

Of course it is. To you and me.. I'm thinking of the numbnuts who buy into vics theology.. "no lake of fire for me.. I can do as I WILL.." I don't say I agree with it.. I just understand it.. as despicable as it is..

It's going to happen. One time or another. If you believe the biblical view.. when the Almighty asks the question, you WILL answer. Even if you end up being the "wicked and unprofitable" servant.. "yeah, I was afraid, wasted your time, your money, your support.." an answer WILL be given.. if you don't believe the bible, I guess this isn't an issue..

the next time I meet w*lter.. or any of these guys.. there will be two questions asked. 1. How many *affairs* did you have in twi days.. 2. How many of them were with those under you "care".. maybe a third question. 3. how many bribes did you receive? Special collections, from those under your "care"? "love offerings".. etc. maybe even offer of sexual "gifts" (and I KNOW of AT LEAST one time this was offered and refused..) and you accepted? and I would ask these questions calmly, no intense interrogation, confrontation or yelling, etc. Unless I find myself at the improper end of "how dare you question my righteousness.." or some such..

Actually it was, for a few. A *very* few, that is.. a very few, found a *safe* situation, where they could fornicate with the "flock" like it was going out of style.. yep.. *leaders*. corps "coordinators".. cabinet members.. "ordained" "clergy".. yep.. a "safe harbor" for sexual deviants.. including vic himself. For who else was it "safe"? for those who sat at home.. didn't fornicate (too much), listened to the tapes, just had some fun.. read the bible.. at least this was the case a lot of the time. At least when "leaders" (see above description) weren't making life miserable.. upon a little reflection, it seems the "twiggies" weren't exactly safe, either.. no. It seems.. sexual deviants and perverts and con-men (and some women) were about the only ones who found a "safe harbor".. twi is like.. a hen house, built and managed by a hungry fox.. and his *men(?)* want to further his work..

consequences for their involvement with Hitler's sin seems to have followed them to the ends of the earth..

The Fuhrer's "ministry" was a safe harbor as well.. for a few SS, until the end came..

I think the claim that "vp was a very very bad man" is simply IRRELEVANT for some. I think I can understand this. It doesn't matter to some whether he stole and plundered, drank drambuie like water, bullied raped,.. all that is irrelevant. Da *man(?)* had a (supposed) *ministry*. That's all that "really" counts.. In the mind of some, it seems it would make no difference, additionally, if he was responsible for the destruction of millions of Jews in the furnace, or slaughter of Serbians, or large parts of the Cambodian population, and on, and on and on.. he had a MINISTRY. Apparently that absolves everything.. I really expect better of W*lter. though he dismissed the goings on at hq.. maybe he changed.. I don't know, I don't know him. At least not very well. If he still calls vic "da man of gawd".. I just sincerely hope not. I dunno.

You've got to be kidding me..

Live would be wonderful.. dead is easy.. well.. relatively speaking.. it's da LIVING that seems to be so screwed up..

I've lost a few friends as well. However, I don't know if some are (still) living or dead..

I dunno.. a "disgrace to slugs".. doesn't that qualify? I chose not to assail slugs with responsibility here..

Pawtuckett is not God.. I don't know if that is a fair observation, in da mind of da participants, or even Paw here.. g_d likes to take a vacation. Just ask him.. he did that in the beginning.. no kidding.. yeah.. why be god, when one has other options.. sorry. God meets drunk squirrel here.. it was meant to be..

why does reincarnation have to be something mystic, and/or objectionable.. why can't it just be something the "rest of us" can understand.. I dunno. At this point, I don't know how good it would be to come back as an ant..

excuse me while I choke laughing.. thanks, that's what I needed today friend.. hey.. aardvarks .. that would be just fine. As long as there is beer.. and an over population of ants. and beer.. and ants. Fine by me..