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They really don't care. It makes absolutely no difference to them.. can't take the time to examine something "negative".. they really think the old organization, hierarchy and corps "program" was a real "success".. "ruined" by a *few* "bad men". the kid lists gramps as one of his heroes..

cold summer, glistening.. Schinderleria, Preamaturus.. In other word,.. "the fish".

there is a fog upon L.A... tell the moon dog, tell the march hare.. we have.. what? the warmth of the sky..

difficult to live with? Christ, no. A *prophet* is, or should be, your best friend..

most of the "prophets" I've met.. when they were confronted with a large enough "following".. acted crazy enough to disseminate the crowd.. Truth really is a pathless place.. the rest.. I don't know how to describe them..

why do we get a Scientology advertisement at the bottom of the page? Excuse the cussing. "Christ.. I know where I am from.." and it isn't from the depths of hell. Others might disagree.. and they want to SELL the "privileged information" to me? NOW we are getting the right ads. Super duper sandwiches.. "Hot Dang".. and not because it passed the GS cuss checker, either..

I don't know about you.. but generally, people tell me EVERYTHING.. why I don't know.. yeah. Even if it is self-incriminating.. Why? well.. the only *action* I can take, is in my dreams. I can't levitate, mentally manipulate matter in real life.. I can manipulate numbers. That's about it..

Is your defense, the end justifies the means? well.. at least the trial can proceed.. anybody who can identify the allusion here.. wins the booby prize..

*some of us* were sent to OBSERVE.. do you have any final words in your defense?

we are assuming a lot here.. people who have a "ministry?" I've met John. I have the highest regard for him.. but is he willing to accept your description? Or insinuation that he has a God-given ordained MINISTRY? how is "research" a "ministry"?

and while you're working on the last two questions. What would you do with a psychiatrist that "counseled" his patients by having sex with them? or even worse. Administered date rape drugs surreptitiously?

maybe the big question should be: do you AGREE with that doctrine? or that its OK under the right circumstances.. or do you abhor it?

so he just "bumbled along" into a morass of sin and sexual immorality? he DECIDED? I think that is the key here. he really thought? so now you partly admit.. that he was "led astray". But you seem to persist in holding on to his doctrine.. he "decided".. everything else as well.. just so I understand what you are saying correctly: "I am allowing a lecherous rogue and sexual deviant to determine what is right for me to believe." Is that it?

You've got to be kidding.. maybe by YOUR perception.. I think closer to reality here was, vp's first love was the adulation and worship publically, and the "ability" to "free range" with his wee wee..

yes, that is the whole point here..

what would it take for you to be at peace? what would it take for you to turn your back on da way international, forever.. I found it once. but I can't apply it to anyone else..

I understand completely.. sorry. I'm supposed to be some kind of peacemaker here.. I feel I have failed horribly.. where do we go from here..

very likely. Same as Hitler, Milosivek.. Pol-Pot.. Misunderstood, otherwise, "darlings"..

have you thought for half a second that someone from the early seventies has entirely abandoned that kind of ....? let's see what the GS spellchecker does with the last sentence.. I was from the early seventies as well.. I saw what others did, in the early seventies.. brb. A few moments here.. pretend it is chat.

I'm sorry friend. You ask a question like this.. and half-drunk Squirrels WILL reply..

sooo. Wierwille was a maniac. heh it took some of us some time, but we likewise figured it out.. so.. who is it those who shall "go".. another half a bottle of 47 pound chicken, and I'm sure I'll figure it out.. *We* will go, with our spouses, untouched, and un-maimed.. Our wowmobiles, our little businesses and professions.. our.. sowy. I'ts the best I could come up with at the moment..

Who are they that shall go? well.. somebody has to speak for da devil, you know..

dismissing moral superiority in a debate.. doesn't that indicate the person with the argument is complaining that the other party has an "unfair advantage"?

but.. there is nothing quite like, da Original.. If only you could read it in the original.. and if you don't like all the links.. here is da Best..