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so where is the safeness here? what is it? I'd really like to know..

I would love safeness here.. honestly.. if we are going to have it (safeness and all) let's HAVE it. if not.. fine. You go your way, I'll go mine.

who is speaking with forked tongue? You offer a shelter from the storm, on one hand. A "safe' PLACE. a safe harbor.. a safe haven. then what is it? the safeness seems to evaporate, the moment it is challenged..

to the non(?) mathematicians.. I don't believe that. You are all mathematicians. Maybe you just don't know it yet.. I was 2 years old, then 3, then 5, 7, 11, 13, 19.. the number have no even divisor. 53 is a big deal. the next time a prime comes is.. 59.

maybe the real question here.. which camp are you really in? It's nice to be with the "in" crowd. with great risk that this will turn "political".. if one has the remote possibility of being a liability.. well, you're not "in". and now.. you are what. fifty five, fifty six, or is that fifty seven.. old age and poverty looms on the horizon.. in *way* terms, what are you worth.. where is all the love now.. ... I'm really not trying to break your "faith".. see.. I have the same "faith". will there be room for me.. well.. somewhere. It just might not be the place that would be described as my first choice.. I'm in my sixteenth prime. What about you? five more years, and I I will be in my 17th prime. some mathematicians count the years of their birth in primes. Otherwise, it might be quite a larger number.. then in mathematical terms.. if I survive past teen years, I must be doing pretty good..

very very interesting.. so he "borrowed" from "the devil." a friend of the devil is a friend of mine.. maybe I'll get some sleep, tonight..

well, finally. *we* know what it is NOT. The victoid's *ministry* was NOT a place where accompanied or unaccompanied, married or unmarried young women were "safe", physically in herr victoid's presence. Hitchhiking "believers" seemed to be offered no real level of divinely provided physical safety on the way to lead.. And no amount of physical safety could be accorded to the rank and file follower either. So nobody was physically "safe"? well, some were "safer".. I'm thinking of the few pistol bearing thugs that happened to have the "reverend" appended to their name. Relatively safe. As long as they didn't start shooting each other at a SNS.. or corps meeting, while herr "doktor" drolled on for hours about the word "of". So we've gotten over THAT little misunderstanding. So if that's not it.. what is it?

so how was da way safe, and a harbor, or haven? If its the presence of God.. I have a better reference from psalms. Psalms 139:8 b.

You say yes, I say no.. you say stop, and I say go go go... Oh no....

I could wheeze on for five hours as well.. does that make you feel "safe"? yep. this is what prompts the question.. "for WHOM was it safe? under what conditions?" Another observation. "the devil kicked my rear before I *joined* da way. He kicked it during my stay, and he kicked it after I left". (very rough paraphrase). so.. what good did your *affiliation* with da organization exactly accomplish? Let's not go into that now. I'm still waiting for the definition of tangible safety here..

how many usages of the genitive case are there? Even dumb Squirrels know that.. give me a break here.. was it "Paul a servant, of, that is to say, owned by Jesus Christ (genitive of possession) or was it Genitive of Character.. or was it..

Yep.. they must have been absolutely nuts.. didn't the mom have a few parenting instincts? I understand that they are supposed to.. what circumvented all that? anyway. what I'm still waiting for is a definition of just what the safe harbor WAS. Instead, I've been treated to dissertations of the victoid's research, bible(?) teachings about "love the sinner, hate the sin.." references to the victoid wheezing for five solid hours about the word "of".. and it seems typical of way behavior. If you don't know, or feel uncomfortable with the question, just ask another one. "you have a problem with forgiveness, don't you?" or something like that.. so. One more time.. why does the Porridge bird lay his egg in the air.. ahem. Sorry.. one more time. What is this "safe haven"? can you define it without a vague reference to some verse in Psalms? what was it? Who was really able to enjoy it? In a tangible sense, what was it? A safe haven from WHAT? Or who? Might seem like five questions. No, these are reasonable SUGGESTIONS on how you might answer the question. I'm not entirely accepting the ability to wheeze on for five hours about "of" to qualify..

If I'm not mistaken, he got his real break by marrying into da vicster's mob.. His "teachings" were probably as much a yawn-fest as the victoid wheezing on hours on end about the word "of".

we were warned to steer clear of other people's "stuff" that wasn't "vicster approved". One limb "coordinator" in California went as far as to BAN the use of Companion Bibles.. what an arrogant, moronic buffoon. The insult is VERY MUCH intended here. Well, to the buffoon. But his fader in da verd just loved him.. why the fear? afraid of what? That somebody in "twig" might know a few more greek words? or see the source where the victoid outright copied page after page?

Probably from page 543 of Bullinger's "A critical lexicon and concordance". Or from page 989 through 1002 of Bullinger's "Figures of Speech". Or from page 381-389 of Bullinger's "How to enjoy the bible." Or maybe one of the appendices in Bullinger's Companion Bible..

I picked my handle, because I am a ham radio operator. callsign is kb8pgw.

maybe your wern't all that.. that is evil and viscous. I'm waiting for those who know me to weigh in here.. what am I.. I dunno.. scary thoughts, isn't it..

so while we are on this subject.. I'm still waiting for your definition of what your hate/love is.. what about "sinner"? what is the definition.. is it.. deplorable, horrible acts against god's elect.. or is it.. transgressions against way doctrine? you know. doctrinal "differences". having a slightly different god.. or something. so.. what if I can't describe my particular perception of the Almighty within your particular confines of logic.. is that it? Is that the real *problem* here?

what I'm trying to figure out is.. why someone would DEMAND that we "love" an evil, vicious man.. don't blame me. I was just sent to observe.. Squirrels from the future, and all..

Love the sinner, hate the sin.. you know.. I don't expect "love". one really can't.. even if one is a "nice guy".. or less harmful than others.. it's really an unrealistic expectation..

sounds like just one more twi mantra.. what is your implication here? that I HATE vp? just that we understand each other correctly: you are saying what? Have a warm and fuzzy feeling, pleasant regard and "thankfulness" forda victer.. and at the same time despise the corruption, abuse.. thefts.. vandalism of good mens reputations.. perversion and rape.. is that it? Maybe you could define what you mean by "love" and "hate".

ha! at least they had the sense to know who to ask..

truth is a pathless place, isn't it really? :)

I dunno. Looking at the picture of the guy.. and even foregoing the video.. how can you take a fellow with no real eyebrows seriously?? I mean really..