Ham

that is the "coolest" post here.. if I could vote, anyway.. I would not deny God on anybody's premise.. not even mine.

so.. we have a *ministry* that leads nowhere. needs constant, and what's the word.. I'll remember tomorrow.. but it needs constant defending. And excusing.. you have to be kidding.. Maintenance! that's the word. and that's what it seems to be getting here. At least from some of us.. one excuse, one justification for pure evil, after another.. a few quoted verses, how *man*'s heart is depraved.. if you think I am in anything for the money, fame and fortune, riches and wealth beyond any reasonable expectation here.. I would ask those who really, really know me.. some of them only WISH I were a hundred times more ambitious.. my life was far from "covered" or "protected" in the old man's "ministry".. some were even less. so what I am seeing here.. outside of a few historic incidents. That is, meet the wife, father a couple of godly children.. and I would have done the same, taken the same actions, if I were inducted into the Jehovah's Witnesses.. or Scientology.. or.. whatever.. outside of what NATURE provided. There really was no advantage..

seems to be just giving me one more reason to abandon the bible, entirely. If that's god's religion, he can keep it..

That's it! Da victoid's "ministry".. on one side of the road there was a cemetery.. on the other, a road sign.. "millions now smoking"..

It's to them.. "incorruptible". i.e. whadda I have to worry about? one of my dear friends from long ago.. his dad told him.. "it sounds to me, like you are using the bible, to go to hell.."

I really didn't see the Corporation named or accredited in any way in any of this.. the *safety* is only at best temporary. Or seasonal. they just don't see it that way..

who was it safe for.. so far, from the "relevant" discussion." Da way was a safe harbor, for a leader with an erection..

The Victoid (sorry I capitalized his name) was *lucky* enough to be a Swine, at the right time..

he didn't figure it out. fear, or fearlessness? there will BE a debriefing on the other side of this existence.. well.. maybe I shouldn't say more. Sounds pretty nutty, even to me.. but doesn't anyone else have any impressions like this? you had to make a few agreements with whoever it was there to come here.. from what I remember.. the dialogue went something like "you'll never figure it out. Or at least, the odds are VERY SLIM that you will.." it could just be an illusion. maybe self-induced.. maybe from watching the Outer Limits in the early sixties.. the "easy" answer during the debriefing.. "sorry, I was (or chose to be) a moron.."

about the best year I had was 1974.. weird. I'm still connected to myself, over forty years later.. there is too much good that I would have to undo to go back to change anything.. what would you change, if you could? well.. me. but then, I'm connected, aren't I. I've changed a lot in the present.. I just wish I could give a *tad* bit more wisdom to the poor clueless bastard in 1974..

you really don't need a bible to watch and comment on a video with two women and a dog.. honestly you really don't.. the "honesty" makes him a manogawd? I won't put those words in your mouth. But if they are there.. my reply would be.. "you've got to be kidding me.."

if not "serious port".. what is the next step? Beastiality? Oh. Yes.. the victoid didn't show that in da class. That was reserved for mixed audiences, with some underage viewers in da corps.. admired? He was (a very very small version) of the Timothy Leary of christianity. well, most of his audience had already turned on, tuned in.. no thanks to da vicmeister.. but wasn't that the POINT of what he had to offer with his wares? Drop out of "conventional" society and religion? too bad it was to fall into the hands of a depraved, drunken lunatic and sex-fiend.. and those like him.. happened to the "keeds" who fell into manson's alternative lifestyle as well. The mansons tried to "love bomb" Carl Wilson as well. Didn't exactly work.. thank god.. "there are those among us who would GLADLY EXECUTE you" if they had half a chance. even if their assumptions were incorrect..

yep. sorry,that's the best I've got here..

I hope .. the newer generation, finds.. LSD 25.. it was a wrench, tossed in the machinery..

everything.. was wrong with us.. including me.

considering in this life.. I've been met with debts from the last one.. or was that from the one before.. or was that from the one before that.. yeah. I wish I could just remember what it was that I owed..

we'll just call it a draw. I paid in, year after year.. raised productive, educated individuals, in my household. I really did all I could do here.. no. They will find two loan officers. One will be an absolute saint. The other one, would rob his mother of her pension, to pay the tax debt.. yes, they will find two. and they will give both of them stern, strict orders to collect from me, moments before shooting both of them in the head.. :biblaugh: sorry. It's a running joke here..

ha! I think that is what I was trying to say.. really, there is nothing left there.. but I was one of the stooges who paid in.. lets see how they can reconcile all that, and student loans.. I think as the book keepers might interject, hit even..

I don't know about you. But I am running on fumes here.. in more ways than one.. I've outlived my dad by close to ten years.. the Tallman family has rarely had a male living much past sixty.. there was one one early settlement that failed, because of this. It is much easier for the next generation to find sustenance elsewhere. My dad found it in the Army airforce in WW2.. so. as for me. The student loan people will come. They will have to descend into Hell to collect.. I'll just say, "take it out of my social security account".

well, yes. If he "threw out" all of his "secular" material.. how did the video of the women and dog end up as some kind of original "research material"? I mean.. throw out bible commentaries.. how did gross porn get the priviledge of being left behind? "kiddees. *we* are not here, to study da bible.. you can get that in any ordinary, bland, denomination.."

he was such a what.. tourist? maybe that's a better description than manogawd.. the very best rock and roll does not put this kind of s*it up front. It lays it between the lines.. listen to Clapton.. strange brew.. there is a lot more..

We already knew all, or most of the slang terms, didn't we? What "new light" was presented here? "hafta read it in da original, keeds.." was that it?

who is worthy.. it is not for me to decide. Even in regards to myself.. I kind of look at it like.. maybe I shouldn't say.. if there is no room for me.. well, they can go to hell. I hope this makes sense to somebody other than my delusional self here..

I'm still trying to figure out how an innocent shovel is being implicated in all of this.. yeh.. don't blame me.. it was da shovel..

under what other circumstances.. would a mid life male.. taking the hand of a practically teen aged female.. and placing it on his erection.. be acceptable? In CHURCH? *we* were SUPPOSED to be.. church. there were a few boundaries even in my most devoted way days that I would not cross.. crazy.. It's what.. scary thoughts. The church of the "liberated".. "Praise da lord, sister.." Those who I feel real compassion for.. is those who came across the path of *uncle* howard.. what a very, very small soul.. even the hippies had a few standards.. it doesn't feel good, don't do it..