WhiteDove

Hey! It wasn't my fault that pig Psalmie forced herself on me.... thats my story and I'm sticking to it. Running to the store to get some Dentyne gum...... :)

No Evil there Rascal just being fair and balanced: Just pointing out that administrations are not interchangeable You can't reprimand someone for using pre new birth scriptures and then do the same thing!

RascalJust thought I'd remind you of your argument about using Jesus as a example to prove your point., It isn't interchangable for each poster I'd think.

Do you remember yours? Were you thinking things like this? Is it the right time? Is anyone watching? Does your partner even want to? Is your breath fresh? Then did you lean in and just go for it!!!

Hey Bagpipes if you would like an upgrade on your Good Seed from vinal to CD let me know...

Groucho is correct there is a big difference between the two questions Does he get forgiven by other Christians now? Absolutely Yes Does he get returned to his position as the leader of ........ Of course not I assume you are considering guilty as in a real trial not by accusation, but proven guilt as in Jim Bakers case.

Yep now your an angel serving wine and cheese. lol By the way you can change your member title by going to my controls, edit profile, then change the title under member title. If you want to.

Sprawled- just a thought here something to consider perhaps that screaming kid throwing a tantrum you have flashing as your avatar doesn't help your case, couple it with your tag line under it and I'd bet you are already perceived subconciously as a bad boy. I know of a few people here that have changed theirs because of peoples concepts based on them. Maybe this would be a good topic Do our avatar's subconciously shape our picture of what the person might be like?

Hap maybe you need to build your communities believing for cheap gas!

So my question is how can you say you believe in your church be baptized and confirmed and then say but I don't believe what it teaches. That makes no sense. If you think that they are lying to you then how could you trust them for anything? And I wonder how you could attend a mass and profess belief in one holy catholic church knowing that they lied to you about the trinity. It seems hypocritical to me to stand and publicly profess belief and support of a doctrine that you privately think is a bunch of lies. Sorry I just could never see that as honest worship. If people are looking for a social club wouldn't it be more honest to join a knife and fork club? At least then they would not have to be dishonest with themselves or with God when they worship.

I don't know Hap the station where I filled up today at $2.16 they have droped their price again this afternoon to $2.14. It changes by the hour now it makes no sense.

And I thought $2.16 was a deal today.......

Dang I'm in the wrong business.......

I don't know Belle I've had some jobs over the years where disclosing your salary was grounds for dismissal I suppose that was control and secrecy also. The details of many corporate license agreements are not know ,it's business. I would guess that partly the reason would be to not add fuel to fire of his detractors and really if we aren't paying it ,it probably is none of our business. It's his material I say let him market it the way he wants if it is worth the price on the free market time will tell or in this case has told. You can ask whatever price you want for a service,i f you get iit may or may not happen. I think the price paid was too high for the product, some did not ,some did not but found out it was they just did not know it, some did and are happy. Works for me.......

Yeah I figured that out after I posted slurking away now........ I bet T-Bone would have had a ball at the pool.

Rascal I have no personal beef with you only with your philosophy it is evil just as it was years ago when Craig and Chris Geer for that matter did it to those who dared to listen and consider what John Lynn and Ralph and others had to say. Guilt by association no regard for the person ,who they are, what they do or teach, just guilty as charged a blanket sweep. By the way that led down the road to spiritual suspicion if you remember? You know -we don't even know if they are listening but we'll assume they are guilty anyway. It is an evil doctrine and yes I will speak out against it as I did. Speaking of doctrine I wonder how much time you have really invested in finding out the doctrine of those who you speak of , or are you assuming on somebody else's guess. Sorry I don't see guilt by association in the scriptures either, I see individual consideration of people for instance the woman caught in adultery now there would be a candidate for guilt by association if there ever were one. You might wanna check Jesus response.

J your killing me here..... She right of course and I've seen some of them recommend their jock mentality buddies who have no real life skills to unfortunate women looking for a good husband. Yea they are the worlds greatest salesman doing well until next week when it somehow didn't work out but the wife has a real job. Pathetic.......

LOl If I told you Excie I'd have to kill you. And I would not wanna do that :( I'll say this it is in the thousands of dollars as I said more than I would want to pay. There are also some other non financial things involoved. one of which is not to discuss the agreement conditions. So now I have to go kill myself or not......

And Judas betrayed Jesus so I suppose that it is guilt by association for all of the rest of the apostles and those that Judas taught if they agree with the truth he shared... thats a big brush Rascal you painted with. The fact remains that truth is truth and if the guy is sharing truth someones elses life does not attach accountability to him. Guilt by asociation? Gee that sounds like a Craig idea to me. Maybe your morphing way flashbacks into your thoughts again.

I can see how some people would feel that way perhaps it is a carry over from the Way and that is too bad I don't really know what to say about that . To me it was a class there are others like it not that big a deal. Now about Doug to my knowledge his camps are open to all,and run by Biblical Studies and Fellowship his group though I have never attended I get his mailing ,letters and such. They would be independant of his licence with Word Promotions so yes he could offer the camp to any and all as he does now as far as I can see. The exception I guess that goes without saying is unless someone was there for the intent of disrupting the camp. You bring up a point perhaps people assume that they can not attend because they are not involved with Geer, but in all the years I have to say that none of the mailings implied or stated such an idea. And I have listened to the tapes of the camps from Doug and there was no mention of Chris Geer,Word Promotions or any of it's products for that matter. By the way the one on prayer was wonderful . I doubt that the family camp would change at all if Doug lost his licence for Walking in God's Power Classes.

LOL Tonto your starting to worry me here, personally I think Shanna's smile would be more interesting. :blink:

Good ones The girl does look like she is about ready to go backwards into a Nestea plunge into the pool. He could do it with one easy jump I think. To me it looks like he is contemplating the move. A Tweetybird moment..... If I do'd It I be bad!........ I do'd it!!!!

No that would be Shanna our dog Park president thats me in picture 49 in the hang ten set in the blue shirt.

Sky Reading your quote if it is quoted correctly as it stands is correct, many have lost or choose to discontinue their license agreements. You then add that their affiliation was on shaky ground. Was that a guess by you, or an assumption. I know of a few of those groups and their affiliation is just fine they just can't run the classes that Word Promotions offers it is not even close to the TWI spiritual probation you speak of. The agreement you speak about has always been a dead end street it is way too much IMHO for what you got in return. I looked at it when it was first available to sign on, quickly running the numbers it was easy to see that after you exhausted your repeat attendees that unless you kept finding lots and I mean lots of new people to run through a class you would be paying out more than you would bring in. Secondly the days of folks spending their weekends sitting back through something the have heard a hundred times are over not to mention getting a sitter and in most cases driving to somewhere else to do so, the expense is prohibitive. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that unless you wanted to pay for that right out of your pocket you would maybe make it a year or so before bottoming out. Unless as I said your goal was to be a full time class recruiter. Some people charged ahead anyway thinking it would work out somehow, they thought wrong. That said and this gets back to what I said on the other thread each of these fellowships are independent Word Promotions is a producer of materials classes, CD's ,Books ect. Much like CES in it's early days they offer teachings and such for groups that wish to access it they do not run any fellowships. if you want that you do the agreement, if not you are still free to do as you wish at your fellowship. there is no "shaky ground". There are a lot of groups that have former way leaders that still think they are running a limb branch, region or whatever, and that other fellowships in the area need to approve their direction with them. You can't hold Chris responsible for other people acting like a**hol*s no more so than you would want to be accountable for my actions because we both have a affiliation that we post on greasespot. From time to time I access things from Word Promotions and I receive their newsletter a few times a year despite declining to be a licensee and despite the fact that I do not have that good of a relationship with the area licensee here. Their response to me has been fine certainly not the shaky ground you spoke of.

Are Steve and Kelly Munro stiull doing the atlanta fellowship maybe? they are listed also on the web page.