WhiteDove

I represent myself here.

You must have missed it this thread is about What They Said; What They Did I posted about that subject not to or about you or me. Only what they said and did. That was my experience and we all know now that anyone's experience is truth don't we? So I guess mine was the truth... Wasn't it great..............

When accusing someone of a crime it is different than a traffic incident WW a crime as Pond said is a serious charge, that requires clear speaking and proper wording. Again I'd like to see proof of that ,again you misrepresent me despite numerous times I have address yor claim. Now I have accused you of just making S**t up things just like this for instance, but then the lack of proof of your claim seems to point out that.

Again I state....... I never called anyone experiance into question only that there experiances do not make truth until proven until then they are alledged. That's the word sorry if it does not fit with your agenda.....

Answer still the same Not everyone is concerned about whats in in for me............ Some of us learned to consider whats in it for others. Apperantly you worry about yourself I don't that is the difference between us......

Perhaps because past experiance tells Jonny that that is the case despite everyone's denial. Check the What They Said; What They Did thread I posted three statements that were focused on good things they were not confrontational only things learned .Immediatly after each was a smart a** remark thats why Jonny thinks so............

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Never said you couldn't Garth but this thread was about what they said and what they did... And they did teach us that, I'm glad I kept that mindset. I like it that someone smarter than me is my teacher. Some are content to believe they are smarter. In the end we will see just who was..........

Never said I decide only that by definition of the word that is what it is ,no where in the definition of alleged does it say that anyone's experience determines if it is alleged or not , you want to ignore the English language and make up your own definitions go ahead, I'll note that. I'll be answering the rest of your post on another thread later for you and Mr Sky

Not everyone is concerned about whats in in for me............ Some of us learned to consider whats in it for others.

My experience differs from yours, there are many others that do as well. There are some here that think if that was your experience that makes it true, I guess under that logic my experience was the truth, I personally wouldn't go so far, but in any case mine was not the same as yours, I used plenty of GOD Given freedom of choice, I thought when I wanted. I don't doubt that there were those that would try to talk you out of your rights in Christ there always is ,whether we listen or not remains the choice we each have. Dylan said in his song Man of Peace He got a sweet gift of gab, he got a harmonious tongue, He knows every song of love that ever has been sung. Good intentions can be evil, Both hands can be full of grease. You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace. Well, first he's in the background, then he's in the front, Both eyes are looking like they're on a rabbit hunt. Nobody can see through him, No, not even the Chief of Police. You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace. Well, he catch you when you're hoping for a glimpse of the sun, Catch you when your troubles feel like they weigh a ton. He could be standing next to you, The person that you'd notice least. I hear that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace. I think he's right, we just don't have to let him control us.

Your experiance does not qualify if an event is alleged or not If someone is robbed it is that persons experiance ,but the accused is non the less refered to as alleged until the verification.. Because they had an experiance does not make the person anything less than alleged........ proof makes them guilty, at that point they are not alleged any longer.

You seem to want to imply that alleged is somehow tied only to a legal court system it is not, that is not what it says. Read the definition An alleged incident.........IS ..........an event.............that is said..........to have taken place..........BUT ........has not been verified. Until such a event is verified (does not mean you say so) the proper English is to refer to the event as alleged. and yes if you are going to hold every word that came out of someone else's mouth to cross microscopic examination then yours should meet the same standard if your honest.

I've noticed that more and more posts are containing the phrase or something to that effect. It's the Latin Assassin

Well it would seem logical that a group that seems bent on taking VPW to task on the integrity of his words would want to speak with integrity themselves lest they be in the same category......... It's a little hypercritical to point out someone else's faults when you do the same yourself, when your words have no integrity, because you don't like the truth of what a word means. It's quite clear that what I said holds true and clear as well as you have admitted that one would need to fulfill the things you listed to properly move the charge from alleged to True. the problem is you don't like it that that’s just the way it is so you think your personal dislike qualifies you to just ignore reality and post whatever you like.

Actually many of the organizational and setup information has proved very beneficial in my business and at various other endeavors that I am involved in. I'm sorry that it did not work out for you.

They taught us you're responsible for what you do with that which God has given.....And they taught us how to develop those talents.

They taught us It isn't what you think, it is what the Word says you should think............. and then they taught us how to renew our minds.

Your correct that is exactly what it would take and if you don't do that then you don't get to change the word meaning anyway not having fulfilled the requirements that you yourself admit need to happen to prove you case. Lack of time or money don't change the alleged information to truth it does not work that way ,you must meet the conditions before it can properly referred to as true. Until that is accomplished it is alleged. An alleged incident is an event that is said to have taken place but has not yet been verified.

Last I looked no one hindered you from posting what you had to say. it looks like there are pages of your posts. I am free to offer my opinion as well to point out that your opinion may or may not be factual and that the lack of proof puts it in the catagory of aledged until such time as there is documentation otherwise. An alleged incident is an event that is said to have taken place but has not yet been verified.

They said we could Live A More Than Abundant Life............Wow they were right

Dot thanks for posting that piece it is good to read it once in a while.. Here is another along those lines Caution Eyesopen Contact Alert........... You Didn't Even Say Goodbye "Woof!" I said as you started the car, "Hooray!" I said, it's my first time afar. The scents we were passing were all new to me, For it was my first introduction to this mysterty. As we got out of the car I embraced you with joy, After all you remembered to bring my favorite toy! You threw it once or twice, of which I retrieved, But on the third it seemed you were ready to leave. You threw it long and hard and I chased it like lightning, But when I turned to bring it back I saw a sight quite frightening. I gripped my toy hard as I tried to comprehend What it was I did wrong to make our relationship end. You walked back to your car as I sat there still loyal. Why am I subservient and you so royal? Your engine started, and you peeled out into the night, You didn't even care about my overwhelming fright. As I sat in my pose determined you would come back, The sun faded behind me while the surroundings turned black. Day after day I stayed in that park, Lying... waiting... too feeble to bark. As I lay there dying thinking of you master, I asked myself how I got into this horrifying disaster. With my last breath of life, I whispered your name Then I collapsed in a heap over run by pain. Why didn't you love me master? Why didn't you care? Had I no significance, was I just a clump of hair? I stayed there master and I waited for you I guess taking care of me was just too much to do. I'm gone now master, no more You-and-I But what I can't figure out is why you didn't even say goodbye...

And this is the reason exactly why we must refer to those things that are proven as such and those that are not as such. Regardless of what we may believe personally. When that does not happen it becomes very easy to point out that people are misrepresenting the facts, it makes their job easy to point out that there are nothing but liars here. On the other hand when things are factual and referred to as they should be in a public format then they have nothing to discredit. I'm sure some will point out that they will discredit things anyway so who cares, and that may be true but they will have less to work with when we are factual.

You assume too much did I say I was mad.. don't think so Yeah well I can read and I do..........