WhiteDove

Ex You could get her a nice condo off campus. I'm sure there are lots of people here who would love to sponsor her... of course she would have to write us letters each month. Then again you could mention that she is getting off pretty easy with the showers. At least she wont have to crawl through the lawn looking for rocks, or move mattresses back n forth across campus,or pick peppers, no fun runs, or classes from dawn to dusk, Well I'm sure you can add to the list. I think she will get your point. --> Love.. Me

Well gee I get to see them every day at least once. Lucky me! Those kids never had much of a chance when they were younger they were forced to spend the day from dawn to dusk peddling candy for their dad. Two of them escaped when they got older one was in the Way here, married a nice girl and last I knew has a business in California. The family disowned them. Lucky them!!! Most of the family are attorneys they have a big law firm here. They sue the city on a regular basis and generally win so they pretty much get their way now.

________________________________________________ Now James I know you think that the horse is dead,dead,dead and the bones are picked clean but if you look down there at the bottom right foot you will see that there is still a little bit left to beat. :)-->

Ok T I remembered!!!!!

Well David guess I missed roll call also, but if there are any cheese danish left I'd take one.

_______________________________________________ Oak I have no idea why people here or elsewhere believe the things they do unless of coarse they share that information with me. I don't think I made any referance as to anyones reasons for their beliefs. James asked the question:....Quote: I guess what I'm saying is....DOESN'T IT AMAZE ALOT OF YOU HOW MANY OF US ARE SO EAGER TO PRONOUNCE SENTENCE ON THE MINISTRY THAT WE SO ADAMANTLY DEFENDED YEARS AGO? Yes.....I realize that alot of evil was done by the higher ups...& oh by no means should we condone such behavior...what I'm asking is this...."DO YOU PERSONALLY THINK THAT THE BIBLE IS NOW FULL OF HOLES....SINCE THE HIGHER UPS THAT TAUGHT US THE WORD YEARS BACK (WHICH WE DEFENDED TO THE HILT)TURNED OUT TO BE SOOOOOOOOOOOO CORUPT? ------------------------------------------------ To which my answer to his question was No I dont think it is full of holes for any reason, but if someone thought it was full of holes due to as he stated higher ups turning out to be corrupt. then that would make no sense. As I said it is two seperate issues. My example was to explain why it makes no sense. We have two teachers one a Bible teacher and one an English teacher. Both teach their subjects. Both engage in not so moral things between teaching. Both got caught. Some of the Bible that was taught was true . Some of the English that was taught was true. (this is a guess since I was not there but I'm asuming that it was so.) Their actions did not make either the Bible or English untrue. their actions were just that actions. What they taught stands or falls on its own merit. So to answer the second part of his question which was Quote: DO YOU PERSONALLY THINK THAT THE BIBLE IS NOW FULL OF HOLES....SINCE THE HIGHER UPS THAT TAUGHT US THE WORD YEARS BACK (WHICH WE DEFENDED TO THE HILT)TURNED OUT TO BE SOOOOOOOOOOOO CORUPT? Quote: ------------------------------------------------ My answer was No it has nothing to do with it just like the teachers actions have nothing to do with the school or her English being true. It is two seperate issues.

[quote What I'm asking is this...."DO YOU PERSONALLY THINK THAT THE BIBLE IS NOW FULL OF HOLES.... No So thats my q...will this Bible that set so many of us "free" still work in your life in spite of the corruptness of our former leaders? Yes, Because it is not dependent on peoples actions. Truth is Truth it is not corruptible. James I dont get it either it seems clear that it is two seperate issues. In the news this week is a story of a teacher having sex with her students. So does that make the school itself bad? Does that mean the English she taught is wrong? Does that mean all English is full of holes? Does that mean that all schools are evil? Most would agree the answer is No and they would be corect. Somehow when it comes to the Bible the same logic seems to be lost.

Ex10 The Darnells are involved with CFF they can tell you where they are. I might even remember... call me on the cell#

I could not agree with you more Karmic as I said failure to understand scripture.

Sounds like failure to understand scripture to me.....

Thanks J for your kind words. But I think for now at least I learned a new lesson. It's just not worth it sometimes. P.S. Hey Miss Cool I was in your town last weekend did you see me --> as I went by.

Quote Raf: Good question. How about this I can see where honest Christians would disagree with me, but from my perspective, these books cross the line when it comes to what I consider acceptable entertainment. I've heard the arguments on the other side of this, and while some people find them persuasive, I don't. If I were to read these books, I think I would be violating my Biblical principles. Other Christians feel differently, and I can accept that, but this is the stand I choose to take. Quote: P.S. I saw your rewrite. I see now why you get paid the big bucks! I'm taking notes.... :)-->

I don't know Raf maybe because it did not go so well the first time.

HA HA HA Coolwaters I would not touch that for all the Harry Potter Books in the World. I may be dumb but I'm not stupid...... :D--> -->

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Long Gone We must have been posting at the same time this morning and I had to leave to go to a board meeting for a church camp. Although in reflection of this thread I did not really say too much today. (Alright Now! I heard all those Thank God's from the back of the room)LOL I'm the only non church member that attends but we use the camp for events so the director invited me to attend the meetings. Anyway I did not want to leave without saying thanks for your kindness and for understanding. Thanks WhiteDove.

With that folks I think I may be done. Sorry if I did not get to answer your posts. But it appears that in doing so it only becomes worse so perhaps being a slow typist is a blessing in my case. If you were offended by my clumsy writing,I am truly Sorry! it was not my intention. If you believe nothing else please know that I in all honesty was/am trying to do my best to live acording to my beliefs of the Bible. I may see you all again someday. Love WhiteDove....

Linda I don't know any other way to say it. I was speaking for me and me alone what I thought I need to do to. No one else! I don't see the books as a benefit to my life. Period. ----------------------------------------------- But, WhiteDove, don't you also see that comments like "...thats why there is grace and forgiviness for those who still believe in that" are highly insulting? Ok I plead guilty to poor writing. The truth is as I was typing I was trying to think through my words. I knew they would be micro analyzed so I was trying to be careful. I added the end (for those who still believe in that) because I thought sure that some who were not Christian would be offended. I was trying to respect their beliefs if they did not believe in those things. On reconsidering The truth is from God's point of view they are available no matter what we believe I suppose. I'll reedit my post. Thanks

Nope I stated my view of a book and someone came after me for it. Thats ok by the way to be expected people have different views just not start out of the gate insulting me. --------------------------------------------- No problem, Continue to administer your litle spiritual spanking to all of us sub standard believers... pat yourself on the back for being an oh so superior christian.... ________________________________________________ Not my words yours!

Cool I was just trying to respond to your post today. It was not my intention to insult you but if you say thats the case I except that as your words Sorry.

Naw, I know you don't just a little morning humor for you.

Sure you do. Everyone does. I cannot know what you mean, because I am not you. I can only tell you what you say. That's why we clarify things all the time; people misunderstand what we mean because what we say doesn't necessarily come out the way we intend. OK, Raf But you can ask I think you did that with me a few posts ie: Did you mean this or that. Not assume and post some translation. (However sometimes people do in humor.) And if they tell me what the mean then I except it they should know.

Yes Rascal I am disapointed also. That you continue to put words in my mouth that I do not say. That you insult me while criticizing me for doing the same to you. That you are intent on making me a martyr which I never claimed or asked to be. That you assume things about me that you don't know to be true at all. Todays Assumptions: Both of you play the same silly game....insult, degrade, maligne others and THEN cry *foul*, beat your chests and pretend to be persecuted .....all the while proudly wearing your martyrs robes ..... Go ahead n slap each other on the back, hi fiving for the spiritual bu tt kicking that you think you have just administered. ________________________________________________ No high fiveing going on here. No butt kicking either. Also no being impressed with myself You are assuming these things. And by the way they ARE insulting. Just defending my point of view which has been nothing but under attack in some 6 pages and 133 posts. This is America (Cowgirl excluded) and if I choose to live MY life according to biblical values and make some choices by them I suppose I have that right. Some think I speak poorly I'm sorry. but it is the only way I know to communicate. In the end it is the best I can do. I have no fight with you ,just want to endever to live the way I feel I should be. I'm sure I fail miserably at times I'm glad there is grace and forgiviness for me when I do. God is sure good to us. (*post edited for poor writing thanks Linda for bring it to my attention so nicely)

Well Cowgirl --> It is day 5 on the island I survived another night but I may be in big trouble. I need that immunity necklace really bad but I can't wear that thing it looks like a Voodoo spirit.

If you notice I did not respond to reikilady that way even though I did not agree with all of her views. Why??? because she did not come out the gate at me she made her points with class. lesson to be learned maybe?