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hey, some sticks from "living" trees can acually start new trees. AND THEN do better than the original tree. Wouldn't that just frost thier...............................well u know.

What's worse, is that TWI only acknowledged Mrs. W's death and funeral on thier website "AFTER" it appeared on the GSC website forums. If TWI had any concern for Mrs. W., they would have been the first to announce that they were going to have a memorial service and possibly had someone to offer condolences to the family. BUT, it only goes to show that they only said anything after the fact, and that they know that some of the rank-in-file members do happen to read the GSC forums and would have wondered why "THEY" (the leadership) wouldn't have had anything on the website or passed it along 'in house' about her passing. especially for the people still in that knew Mrs. W. But when has TWI really been interested in any of us that they have cast out of "The Household"???? I would have been the first one to have at least passed on the information to the different areas instead of as an afterthought and then only it was posted by the people who really loved and respected her life.

TWI has always been against helping anyone other than themselfs. Takes away the money that the "HEAD" idiots can enjoy and use out of the ABS monies that the common beliver sends in. If the common beliver wants to donate or has donated to an emergency relife fund, watch the horse paddy hit the fan and the spit start flying.

Hey HCW I'll throw my hat into the ring as leader of the new improved "church of what 'THEY' thought were rejects" people. First thing though is to come up with the heads of the different parts of the cleaning crew and cesspool areas. Fist off we need a person to take care of "Spit" pollishing all of our ashtrays (for those who smoke) and "Spitoons" for those who inbibe to the "chew"..................................... YEA!!! u guessed it, 'OL LCM himself. Why waist good spittle. RIGHT??????? For maintenance of the cesspool...... Drum roll please.................. R.R. (cause of all the Shineola she can spread) AND D*nna M**tin**le as the cleanup lady for the guest bedrooms (sheets, vacuming, window washing, ECT.) I offer fair and honest reporting to all of the belivers, or Pat can report any transgressions that occure. All campaine goes into qa special coffer to be used as a fund for a huge BBQ every year 1 month after my Bday (which was in the same month as an annual event in Ohio (My Bday is in August)) for all the belivers.

HCW What you said the ministry could have been like, could have been true if things hadden't made a bad turn somewhere and the train jumped the tracks. Too bad we, the ex-belivers that are out ofd TWIts controll, couldn't take up where TWIts should have gone. Can't u just see it now, Ted F. as the head of the music department and having GREAT sounding music produced with each and every CD produced? And WW as head of the reaserch department. Of course PAW would have to help with running a smooth and logical web page for all who want to be "in the know" bout what is happening with what's going on. Any more IDEAs??? :D--> --> :D-->

when i took the PFAL class in the mid '70s, there were actual people who were really fired up to move the word as it 'should' have been taught. But in and about the very late '70's things started to change dramatically. The leaders started to get as some people have said changing into gestappo type people. There was actuall wanting to help people who wanted answers in thier lives. But it changed to the leaders wanting to controll who did what and when. Everything had to be done by "THIER" standards, not how it should be done with the love of GOD. the way TWI is run now, there is absolutly no peace, love, compassion, or any sign of the GOD that is love and peace in sight at any of the TWI sites or at any of the classes that they offer. All TWI wants to do now is controll what people do in thier lives and rake in the money they say is due to get the spiritual protection that "TWI" says is available and offers. GOD is love and it doesn't take 50 to 60 percent of the money a person makes to get it. When i was in and was going to fellowships, if you didn't show up for a week or two, the belivers were more than glad to see you again. They didn't rake you over the coals as to why you wern't there or what caused u to leave GOD's protection. All TWI is now is a bunch of legalistic ba$$tards that in practice don't really care about the people but the money that roll's in to the coffers.

Mrs. W is a great person. too bad that TWI couldn't have patterned thier lives like hers. They would still have a lot of great people that they have "kicked out" still in that could have made TWI a better place than what it is now.

The best memory that i haveis of the ROA of '79 and '80. The Rock of 1979 i was going WOW, sent to wyoming, and i had just enough money to get to the Rock and to go WOW. Well, i needed food money, i did have enough for the first day, and someone said that one of the people working one of the food stands was a friend of thiers and to ask them if i could work for them the times the stand was open for meals at meal times. I talked to the person and they understood where i was coming from with me going WOW and not having enough money for everything going on. I had a great time, worked the salad stand making salads, and there was one time that the head person at the salad stand talked to the head person at the pizza stand to trade a couple of pizzas for some salads for the ppl at the pizza stand. so we all had pizza and salads while we were working, joking, laughing and having a grand old time. We also had a test to see who could make the best looking salad too. I also worked the food stands in 1980 also. Low on money and asked god for some help getting some smokes. The leadership of the stand had me take out some of the trash bags to where they picked them up, and LO and behold inside one of the clear trash bags was an empty pack of cigs but betweened the celophane wrapper and the box i saw some money, no idea who put the empty pack in the trash but i found a $5 and 3 $1 bills. talk about getting blessed. I even helped out another person who smoked by giving them one of the packs that i bought with the money. It made thier day as they had run out the day before.

FREEDOM = not having some snot nosed jerk leader having you report every time you go to the bathroom, go on a vacation and report everything (minute by minute, blow by blow) on what you did where you went, what you ate and how much, cost of your vacation (so they can rake you over the coals if you spent more than you give to ABS) and trying to live up to the standards that they (the leadership) want you to live up to but they DON'T even live up to. Look at what the leadership in your area are having you do to live up to "DA VERD". Are they living up to the same standards? OR are they living one set of standards while you live up to thier restrictive standards that they prescribe. Way leadership = what they want to do Regular belivers = restrictions on almost everything that you do. (even to what web pages you can and cannot go to) Remember the saying "The truth is out there." "ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free."

Prunes are a better alternative than a TWIt high collonic. :(-->

If BBRC is putting out the old PFAL class, could they have gotten some of the books and other materials that were already printed that were handed away free?? --> It would have saved them a BIG bundle if they did on printing costs to get the materials to go with the class.

Hey Paw. A couple of nights ago, when I was checking out the threads, my ZoneAlarm firewall program recived a hit. I checked the Alerts & Logs section and was surprised to see it was from 'gscafe2005.com'. Any ideas?????? --> -->

Just visited the LCM4Christ website, and yes it is a very well built site from what i can see. (another website that we all know and hate should take notice on how a good site should look and present itself.) I don't know if the people who started the site even know about the 'Other' group. If they don't, BOY will they get a wakeup call when the cow paddy hits the fan. I also hope that a judge tells the head TWIts to cease and desist on the supposid trademarks. It seems that TWIts tried to close the barn door long after the bread and butter left the barn.

If it's the Yahoo chats and Yahoo groups that you are having trouble with, here is the problem. A user group, that was trading in 'CP' ( I.E. Kiddy porn ) wound up in a lawsuit. In turn Yahoo shut down the user created chat rooms, and possibly some of the user group areas also. Yahoo may go the way of MSN and make people upgrade to the different levels of Email payment to use the chat and user group areas. MSN has had people that are using Hotmail only able to use the pay hotmail to be able to use the chat rooms, has been in effect for about 1 1/2 to 2 years now on msn chat rooms.

As the computer said in the movie "War Games" How about a nice game of chess??????????????? :D--> --> -->

With all of the back and forth "Disscusion's" going on about what was posted on the EZboard site.............remindes me of the "Taste's Great"-----"Less Filling", TV comercials they used to run. I guess that i'll sit back untill the book comes out and read the last chapter to see how it all turns out.

LCM might have been a halfway decent person when he was younger. I don't know, I didn't know him befor I lived at Emporia, KS in the last of 1978 early 1979. I know that while living there he was a hard nosed radical when he was running WCoE. Just the start of his way up to the Pres. of TWI. When Doc Vic was in town he was brown nosing to the master (VPW) as much as he could, getting everything in order (night visits to the motorcoach ect.). But anywho........... I always thought that Craggiers was a lot more than a little wierd during my stay at emporia befor going WOW during the rock of 1979. I remember that the Advance class grads in Emporia had an Advance class grad supper one night, which most of the regular belivers help cook and serve for Craig (Head of the table speaker) and the rest of the advance class grads.from what little I overheard of the speach that craig gave before and after the meal kind of turned me off of ever taking the advanced class. (I thought that if the advanced class turned out a 'BIG SHOT' leader like this, it wouldn't be worthwhile taking.

I'd be willing to bet that at least 60% to 70% of the 'Peons', meaning the people not involved with being in a leadership position, doesn't even have a clue as to what is going on as to this court case. Even 'IF' TWI leadership told the regular rank and file what was going on, all they would be told is that it is either a copped out 'EX' follower or the adversary attacking the Monstrocity -cough-sputter-hack-hack- I mean Ministry. If TWI loses and has to fork over a high dollar figure it doesn't mean they wouldn't stump the regular rank and file to cough up a lot more 'ABS' money to cover what they had to pay out. Gotta keep the coffers full for 'ring around the Rosie' ya know. :D--> :P-->

Justloafing While it's true that it's easy to check out TWI on the internet, with all the innies who are using the computer and the internet, TWI has always come out with that the bad reports being posted are from 'Copped out' ex-way people or organizations that are 'Debbilish' groups that are trying to close them down. That's why TWI doesn't want the dwindling membership to go to any website except the ones they (TWI) dictate. The innies that come to GSC can read true, honest stories of people who have had anywhere from bad situations to downright nightmares of what the leadership has done.

I have heard up to as much as 100,000 in the peak years befor 'POP', but with the way TWIt figures go, that could have been worldwide or possibly those who had taken the complete PFAL class. If memory serves me wasn't it 1979 or 1980 they had at least 13,000 or 14,000 people at the ROCK for the entire week??? That was supposidly the amount of tickets sold, wheather or not they actually came to the 'Rock' or just spent a day or 2. But I would guess at least 50,000 to 60,000 standing belivers at the end of the 1970's to mid 80's.

Sounds like you should have a lot of material to draw from on this one. :D--> --> :D-->

Thanks Paw. I now have the disk scanned. Windows XP sure is different than 98 SE

I recently had a newer computer given to me. A IBM NetVista Type 6579-NDU. The computer has both Windows 2000 Professional AND Windows XP Professional loaded on the hard drive. When it boots up I am offered a choice of either Windows that i would like. Right now I'm using Windows XP as the main operating system. The question I have is, how do I run a 'scandisk' like under windows 98 SE? I have run a defragmentation of the drive and it tells me that there are some files that Windows couldn't defragment. Is there a different program other than "scandisk" in windows XP??? I'm a newbie when it comes to XP. I can get around 98 SE like clockwork, but would like to know if they have renamed 'scandisk'. Thanks.

Reciving The Holy Spittle From Leaders 'The Fake of .... and Absurdities' the class that replaced 'P.rison F.or A.$$*ole L.oy' 'Jesus Christ Passed Over the TWIt's Leadership' any ideas for new books taken from this site by TWIt's in N.K. are payable to the persons who thought up the new names for your books. Payable in advance please, no checks just cash and carry.

Christian Family and LOY P.ower F.or A.$$*ole L.oy now gone, but not forgotten