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I'm pretty impressed with CD. I didn't know he had big cajones like that. It takes a lot to stand up to a big bully like Puke Martinfail. It's too bad that his marriage didn't work out. I hope he's happy now. He is a good guy.

Now after a story like that, how in H would the BOT expect anyone to trust them? It appears they pushed the "dirt" under the carpet and still let Puke Martinfail be the prez. They should be ashamed. I was on Staff in 1998. I remember the couple who came to HQ to be Branch Study Group coordinators left in the midddle of the thing. It seemed kind of odd that Puke Martinfail didn't spew about how the adversary was working through them to cause such an uproar at an Advanced Class. Remember when everybody had to be a special spiritual alert at a root locale when an AC was going on? What a freakin joke!!! Puke Martinfail was probably farking women in between the sessions.

WB, I think MS Word has an award template.

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The only reason I know about the apology is because when the L*chts first announced they could not support lcm and his "one time affair", an announcement was made in our department about the L*chts leaving. One foot in our department said "Oh good, now I won't have to smell her perfume in the auditorium on Sundays." When the announcement was made that they apologized and decided to stay, we teased the guy about smelling perfume again.... By the second time they left, no announcement was made. They never made anymore announcements to our departments until D*an and Edn* S*iler decided to leave HQ. They got their housing assignment at HQ to live in Founders Hall. Their daughter was gone at college. I don't blame them one bit for not wanting to live in a freakin dorm room. I'm sure there was probably more to it than that. But an annoucement was made that they said they wanted to go back on the field. It was not a happy announcement. Our cabinet man didn't want to answer any questions regarding it. It was not presented as a good thing. From what I understand now, they left twi. Good for them.

I knew a guy with that name who fits that description. He was on staff at HQ with me in the mid 90s. I heard he left a few years ago(with wife and child) to take an assignment (he was 24th Corps) in Orange County California. Last I knew, he was very much IN and probably will never leave. The guy I knew was raised in Indiana.

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Abi, I was at HQ. When the crap went down at HQ after lcm's announcement, we were told the Lichts decided to leave. Shortly thereafter, we were told they apologized to lcm and were back. But then obviously they left for good shortly after that. When the Allens left, we were told they made accusations against the trustees and needed to leave as a result of that. We were never told what the accusations were. The Allens were made to look like the evil ones. Boy did rozilla and her bunch pull the wool over our eyes. They were trying to spoon-feed us the forgiveness BS line concerning Martinfail. David was a man after God's own heart, he sinned......Gawd!!! I wanna puke!!! Hey TWI, the truth is out now. :D--> Did you change your story again since then??? [Edited to clarify who the forgiveness was for.]

I remember the All*n lawsuit coming up in April 2000. It was a year after they were booted off staff. The L*chts were in Michigan, and they definitely left after hearing about lcm's crap. I think it started in April 2000. They left, and there was quite an uproar. They were required to apologize to lcm. They came back shortly, and then they left again. At least that's what I remember when I was there.

Yes, that was him.

I sent you a private topic.

The definition of a lie depends on who in twitville to whom you are talking. I know of one woman (wife of a current limb coord) who always promoted that "you don't have to tell everything you know". For her, this was always in context of covering your foot. In my opinion, sometimes leaving out details purposefully can be as bad as lying. I sure wouldn't call not remembering something correctly a lie.

You could raise holy hands and thank Jesus...... :D-->

The whole idea of mental and physical alertness in the kork was sooooo bad! I remember a friend of mine who was in rez said it was raining one day. R*co M*gnelli was the assistant kork coord. He pulled them all together and said, I bet you all were so bummed about running in the rain today. We are going to do exercise inside today. They did a never-ending series of jumping jacks. He kept going and going and going, and said "I bet you wished were running in the rain." Now tell me, what the H is THAT supposed to do to train a leader up right to serve God's people? NOT A DAMN THING!!! A$$HOLES!!

My experience with Corps getting the boot was not my own but my first WOW family coordinator getting the boot. He was the absolute worst leader. He was on his interim year. He bragged that he was the youngest in his corps. He was 22 at the time. He made those 3 months on the WOW field HELL. He was a drunk and very controlling. We would watch him stay out past midnight out in the parking lot with chicks that he and my WOW brother had picked up at the bar that night. They would be completely trashed. ONCE my WOW sister and I came home 5 minutes after midnight, and he was waiting up to chew us a new foot. When I told him that I was tired of his hypocracy and got up to go to bed, he blocked the hallway. He refused to let me go to bed. He said we would talk about it NOW. He did things like this all the time. You can imagine that my goal was to get his foot kicked so far away that he would NEVER treat me that way again. He used to have yelling sessions with my WOW sister, locked up in the bathroom. When he called us one night to pick him up from the bar, I picked him up and informed him that I was calling the territory coordinator the next morning to tell him about the happenings. He had already been reproved for drinking many time before, and we had been instructed that if we didn't tell on him, we all went home.....I sure didn't want to be unsuccessful on the WOW field. That was a disgrace don't you know. The next day Brit* L*nn (territory coordinator) and Fr*nklin Sm*th (Limb coordinator) came to our house to have a meeting with us all. When they got there, they told everyone to go somewhere for awhile except for the family coordinator. They had a phone hookup with J*ohn L*nn (corps coord at the time). When we came back 3 hours later, we were informed that he was kicked off the wow field and out of the corps. The very next day corps from Dallas came up to take the family coordinator with them. The family coordinator was told he should not go home to his family and that he should live with some other corps until he got his .... together. They took really good care of him. Now, after hearing all of this from other people and how people were kicked to the curb for much less, why in the H was this prick allowed to ruin 3 months of the lives of innocent people and get the royal treatment? The Corps from Dallas gave him a place to stay and picked him up and drove him there. Twitville is definitely twisted. It's like the scripture says: calling good evil and evil good; calling sweet bitter and bitter sweet. Don't quote me, I don't read my Bible much these days. Anyway, you get the point. It's all assbackwards in twi.

When I first went on Staff, it was during the worst part of Puke Martinfail's reign. Just a stroll down the hallway was sure to get you reproof of some kind. It was like people were hiding in the hall to find some way to reprove you. My favorite one was when I was the coordinator of a table one day at lunch. We finished eating and I sent people out to take the leftovers, serving dishes, plates, etc. to the assigned areas to receive these items. I had a guy left to clean chairs and the table. One guy who took other items up left his magazine on one of the chairs. The guy cleaning the chairs lifted it up, wiped the chair and put the magazine back down. The owner of the magazine came back ....ed off! His magazine got damp from being on the chair. He asked me who cleaned the chairs. I actually didn't know because I was new. He proceeded to reprove me and make sure that the next time I coordinated a table, I would instuct the people to put personal items under the chair. I told him that kids didn't bring toys in the dining room, so why did he think it was OK to bring his magazine??

You know they always said the greatest leader is the greatest servant, but how often did you actually see that happen in the higher echelon of leadership in THE WAY INTERNATIONAL?? [Refer to the Capital One commercial with David Spade and you will get your answer.]

Unfukkinbelievable!!! I cannot believe the amount of crap people had to put up with to be in the kork. Well, God bless you guys. He saw your hearts even though the thoughtless/heartless bastages called leadership of The Way International didn't. Between this thread and the thread about the LEAD incident, twi should have had their fat arses sued a jillion times by now. I hope there are many more out there who do try. I want to see that place fold and run into the farking dirt.

He's at headquarters functioning on the president's cabinet. He had been (and may still be) the dept coord for housekeeping. He is a good guy, but I think he will sink with the ship when it comes to twi.

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I heard almost the exact words from a woman who worked for him a lot of years.

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Galen, I'm sure your wife doesn't look like an Amish woman. I sure didn't mean this as an insult. It's just not a common thing to see in our culture. Here's a news story about this group: http://www.azcentral.com/specials/special4...olygamy25.htmls

They still never changed even in the 2001. A friend I had who was in rez at that time told me the following: They were told that they could have a time to bring up everything they were questioning...(i.e. lcm's screwups, Donna still being kork, etc.). Someone brought up a bus that was used to transport the kork and questioned the safety of it. The kork coord said it was fine, but then a guy in rez who worked in transportation piped up and said the safety of it was questionable also. This guy got a talking to and had to go back and recind his statement in front of the kork the next day. Twi sold the bus shortly thereafter.....Guilty!!!! Of course they were given BS answers to the other things (i.e. Donna is still kork because it's a different administration)....whatever.... HCW, it is incredibly brave for you to write this stuff. Thanks for sharing it. I hope you are able to finish.

Have you seen the women from these groups Z? They look like they are still living in the 1800s. Long hair pulled up, no makeup, and long dresses, with birkenstock type shoes and socks....lordy!!