Nottawayfer

LOLOL!!! Excie! I haven't seen Goldie without makeup. Maybe someone can post a pic of her without it. I guess there are people out there who look like they were ridden hard and put away wet. But I think in most cases people do look younger than their parents did at their age.

I want to know Goldie Hawn's secret. She is still georgous and way over 50. I don't think she looks like she's had help. Well, it's 2006. And 50 is the new 40, and 40 is the new 30. We aren't as old as our parents were at our age.

You have to be talking about the Hams (Dennis and Santina). Last I talked to them, they were Limb coordinators in Idaho. They had been there for a few years. I haven't talked to them since November 2002. I am sure they are still in.

Vickles, You look like Ala now! I saw that frog and thought she was posting. To my surprise, it was you! I haven't "seen" you in awhile. Nice to see you!

Interestingly TWI took that book off their shelves and it was no longer recommended reading material. I thought I had heard it was because they found out the author was BSing the whole thing. Anybody else remember this? BTW, I NEVER encountered anything described in that book either. Neither have I known anyone to do so either. I think it was hype. I thing it interested vpw because he was so in to the spiritual realm. Remember the recommendation to not got o seances because vpw did it so we didn't have to? Does that sound like he was trying to be a saviour to us?

It was funny for me until it got to the part with the cuddling after sex.......ewwww!!!!! At the end it says, not available in West Virginia, Tennessee, or Utah. Why is that?

Cathy and Monty had just gotten married before they left staff at twi HQ in 2001. I know they moved somewhere to Colorado. I have thought of them a few times. Anybody out there know anything about them? Are they in or out?

George, ROFLMAO!!!! You have a way with words. But THAT scenario made me almost spit coffee on the screen. Maybe it was because it was dejavu.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAREST DOOJABLE!!

((Dooj)) I was just wondering if I missed something. I'm 42 now, and I don't remember things like I used to. I also wanted to make sure I didn't miss out if he did sing that song at some time. I am a Steve Perry fan, and I actually think he would have sung that song well.

I think so. I knew of the Joe Woods married to Lucy. I was on Staff with them at HQ from 1996 to 2001 which is after they lived in Columbus.

I know Steve Perry sang for Journey, but I NEVER knew him to sing that song. Dooj? Was it a special recording or something?

I think I remember King Oakie saying that it was becoming an idolatrous thing for people because of them thinking that was one of the only places they could pray and receive answers to prayer. I don't believe it turned in to idolatry for anyone. I think it was one of the few godly and pure things that TWI ever did for people. People write their requests in a book and others go in and pray put a large network of people praying for things that were really important to the writers' hearts. My personal opinion is that lcm didn't like anything appearing "churchy". He had way too much time on his hands to think about ridiculous stuff like that.

WG, Wouldn't your friend be better informed if she hires herself an attorney? Someone can say they "know", but do they really?

Craig made the original sin as Eve having a lesbian encounter with the serpent. He said the reason that VPW's teaching of the original sin being masturbation never took off was because it wasn't quite right. I guess LCM though he came up with the real original sin. :blink: I think that is where the doctrinal error crept in big time with LCM because of his own sexual indescretions. He also declared the House of His Healing Presence an old wine skin and had it torn down. I dont' remember exactly why he thought that. Maybe someone else can expound on that better than I can.

I call the duck what it is. I guess I am like Bliss. However, the koolaide was different in twi. :) Anyway, I am not ashamed to say I was in a cult. Also, I am not ashamed to say that I learned from my time in the cult and that I wouldn't change a thing about my life. There were many things I wished never happened, but again, it adds to my life experiences. I think we are the people who can help others understand why we were involved with the group we were. I now understand Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, or any other group who is considered a cult. I understand why they think they way they do, and I also understand that they are people who just want to do what they feel is best for their life. Who am I to judge? I am thankful that my family didn't judge me during my time in TWI. It left the door open for them to reach me, and it left the door open when I was ready to reach out to them. In no way do I ever mean to say that Mormons and JWs are bad. I may disagree with their beliefs. Bad things may happen in their groups as did happen in TWI. But that does not make all the people in the group bad. There are a lot of good people in non-mainstream groups.

I met my soulmate on yahoopersonals.com. I met a variety of people in the process. I recommend, especially to women, to tell someone before you meet up with someone you meet on the internet. I tell that person every bit of information I have on the person I met up, even their userid and what website I met them on. I would also tell that person to call me at some point to check up on me. It I wanted out of the scenario, I would use the phone call as an excuse to leave.

I think that people in The Way want to control their website so they don't have to hear "negatives". The reality is that they live in this world. There are negatives, and that is life. TWI always tries to control their surroundings. When you live in this world, that is not always "available". Duh!! Interestingly before I left twi, I had a boyfriend who was an arse to say the least. His attitude in public is that the public SHOULD accommoate HIM in public. When we would go to a restaurant, he would expect no crying babies. If there were any, he would spend the whole time biyatching about how people should stay home with their babies. I would have rather heard a fussing baby than him biyatching the whole time. What an idiot!! Hey BM!! If you are reading this, you are still an idiot!! One time, some drunk people were at Claimjumper. They had a young boy they were causing to make noise. Mr. Idiot Boyfriend was looking at them and rolling his eyes. When the drunk people left, one guy came up to Mr. Idiot Boyfriend and said "Do you have a problem?" Mr. Idiot Boyfriend didn't even have the balls to say they were disturbing him. He acted dumb like he didn't know what the guy was talking about. I told the drunk guy to please not start a scene. He left. Mr. Idiot Boyfriend thought I was a biyatch for tearing him a new arse for putting me in that kind of situation. I broke up with him after that. TWI cannot expect to have a website and not get information that disagrees with them unless they monitor who they let in. I guess if they want to monitor who they let in, that's their perrogative. But if they let ex wayfers in, they should expect to handle our thoughts and comments without kicking us out. But then again, when has twi been consistent or fair?

I remember that ministry quite well and I was in from 1983 to 2002. I remember going to my first ROA and the 2nd and 3rd only to see people smoking pot at a play put on by kids. They were sitting in the back, but nobody said anything to them. They sat on a blanket and smoked their dope. I was new and thought VPW would have said something since he was at some of those functions where I saw the dope smoking. I remember people who got other people in the class based on the fact that they were screwing them. One girl in particular was always given kudos to how many she got in a class. I later lived with her and her mother and step father and found out she bangs them all. Now THAT girl was a REAL witness for the Lord Jesus Christ. Do I care to mention the sexual crap that went on in my WOW family? A place that was supposed to give me 10 years growth in 1 year? I remember people being condemned for not believing when they had illness much less cancer. I saw a man yell at the top of his lungs at a 2 year old because she made noise. His yelling was something like "Don't you ever disturb the Word of God being taught!" The teacher, an ordained man, said nothing. I was appalled. I'm sure that meant a lot to the two year old. So yes, these things happened in twi. I am sorry to say you must have had blinders on. But then again, I did too. Why the H did I stay in a ministry when I saw so much BS???? Now back to the question: Did I go back to my old man ways: Well I never stopped them when I got in twi. I wasn't "that bad" to begin with. My "sin" was drinking too much. I continued to do it until I got married the first time. I remember going with people after twig to get sh8t-fced drunk. It was part of the fellowship. I only do that once a year at an annual Mexican vacation. I did get in debt by buying a decent car and I married in to a home loan. But I'm enjoying those very much. I don't think God has been peesed off at me for it. I just wonder where Craig gets off talking about how people return to their own vomit when they leave twi when he was farking 100s of women and more than one at a time and still thought he was in God's good graces. Now let me tell you ladies and gentleman, THAT is a cult leader. :P

(((((SETH)))))

I think methotrexate is a very low budget way to treat these kinds of problems. I have psoriasis and psoriatic arthritis. I am lucky I get to use Enbrel. It is a newer drug to treat these symptoms, and it does not have the side-effects that methotrexate does. When I first starting taking the shots, I got an allergic reaction at the injection site. I've been doing this almost a year now, and still I HATE getting the shot. I can't look while hubby pokes me. I wish I could treat the source of the problem, the immune system. Enbrel does basically the same thing methotrexate does, slows the immune system to keep it from being overactive which causes the symptoms, arthristis in the joints/psoriasis on the skin. I know they use Enbrel to treat RA now. But you have to get approval from most insurance companies because it is $3,000 a month. :blink: I've tried some natural remedies with no success. Now that I have the psoriatic arthritis in my left hip, I'm less inspired to do the natural thing. That's just me though. It took a few months of the Enbrel before I stopped having such bad hip pain. It's pretty good now. I have stiffness in that hip occasionally, and I hardly have any pain with it now. In case you didn't know, methotrexate was originally designed for cancer patients. It lowered the ability of cancerous cells to grow. It's an old drug.

Weird.....how in the world does that happen? Someone would have to know your password. There are times when I have been in chat and leave (GSC) and then go back in, I see I am still in chat even though I am not. That's weird too. But when I log in to chat, there are people there it didn't say was there. It's confusing. But then again, that's easy for me.

Toppie, Omigosh!! We don't get them quite that bad here up north. We had lightning last night. We had some rain this morning. The monsoons are coming......the rain is needed, but I HATE the lightning!! It means my husband has to go up in the mountains to fix television towers. It makes me nervous this time of year. :blink:

HAPPY OF HAPPIEST DAYS TO YOU!!!

I got my money back. I'm glad I did. I just wished they could have handled it at the customer service level. I guess the moral of the story is to go futher than the first level. Anyway, I'm not buying from these guys anymore. Their return policy is 20 days from the date it shipped. That is not feasible IMHO if you are dealing with mail order items.