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Love to the Dove- Have a very happy birthday. PB

Dear Mike-It sounds like you are doing the attacking not me. I have don't have a lot of time and have never heard of you being attacked. If you need help you can always ask for it and I would be glad to help you. I have nothing against you. But I am not going to defend what I said. I believe it stands on it's own. Aside from this the point of my post was that the leadership of twi were doing things contrary to the Word by their actions. They didn't want to change and they would annialate anyone who got in their way. They defienately had an evil agenda. Oldies-there is not point in bringing up the gory details. The idea I was trying to get across that no matter what anyone said the twi leadership were not going to change and they had enforcers to make sure no one could question them. No harm in you asking though. Thanks

I tried to speak up about what I saw in the ministry. I do and always will love God and I thought I could help to change things. Well it turned out the "Emperor" didn't want things changed and had his so called "protectors" around him at all times who backed him up blindly and who had no remorse for any of their actions. I was identifed as a troublemaker. I was the one causing the problem. I was the one on trial. There were no problems with the ministry. Wasn't "blind faith" condemned by the ministry when it concerned other groups. What hypocracy. I was compelled to place complete allegience to the commander or else be banished into a spiritual wasteland (as I was taught). I was treated like I had leprosy. Well that was it. I was gone. Now I realize it was the best thing I could have done. It was what woke me up to see the "evil" nature of the whole thing. Now I'm finished with being in the control of any person. (sorry got to go my wife's making me get off the puter)

Hope you lift up some drinks-Have a great day-

HAVING MOM OVER FOR DINNER! You don't even have to be a mother to enjoy this one... Brian invited his mother over for dinner. During the course of the meal, Brian's mother couldn't help but notice how beautiful Brian's roommate, Jennifer, was. Brian's Mom had long been suspicious of a relationship between Brian and Jennifer, and this had only made her more curious. Over the course of the evening, while watching the two interact, she started to wonder if there was more between Brian and Jennifer than met the eye. Reading his mom's thoughts, Brian volunteered, "I know what you must be thinking, but I assure you Jennifer and I are just roommates." About a week later, Jennifer came to Brian saying, "Ever since your mother came to dinner, I've been unable to find the beautiful silver gravy ladle. You don't suppose she took it, do you?" Brian said, "Well, I doubt it, but I'll send her an e-mail just to be sure." So he sat down and wrote: "Dear Mom: I'm not saying that you "did" take the gravy ladle from the house, I'm not saying that you "did not" take the gravy ladle. But the fact remains that one has been missing ever since you were here for dinner. Love, Brian" Several days later, Brian received an email back from his mother that read: "Dear Son: I'm not saying that you "do" sleep with Jennifer, I'm not saying that you "do not" sleep with Jennifer. But the fact remains that if Jennifer is sleeping in her own bed, she would have found the gravy ladle by now. Love, Mom"

An exciting new announcement, we have a new class= "How to rightly divide mints"

Oki doki-I'm in. I'll handle the sing songs- Straddling all the promises. The Truth has been Marched On.

Looks like you are looking for a feeling. You would probably be better off joining some non-religious group or volunteer group that acutually accomplishes something.

Good God, this is great I'm in= At lunch time when your boss is sititng in the cafateria with the cute blonde in accounting, page hin on the intercom and tell hiim his wife is in the lobby. (You better disguise your voice). When one of your kids is telling you he doesn't want to go to college. Tell him he'll end up working at a job where the only thing he will say all day is, "do you want fries with that"?

Bulwi- That vid of Goin' to the country sort of reminds me of early ROA's. LOL

Don't know if anyone has posted this guy before, but he's not bad-

DWBH-Thanks for your heart and insight. I don't have a lot of time to post, but I do appreciate reading what others have said. No on can dispute that we must forgive to keep a clear conscience. I think most here have done that. But we don't have to forget about it. It is good that we continue to bring up the fact that they have not asked for forgivness or admitted there was anything wrong. We can and must warn others of their evil deeds and hypocritical nature. No one can deny Jesus Christ did that when speaking of the religious zealots of his day. I'm glad you came back to share with us. PB

Watch out for that yellow snow! (Us polar bears know all about it.)

WW-Very interesting work. Job well done. It took me a long time to put together that the hardness and callousness that was evident in the ministry overall must have come from the actions and direction of those on top. Old Vicsters actions never did line up with what he spoke. Those actions affected the entire ministry and have basically destroyed it. If he was so good as some say, why didn't the ministry continue to grow and prosper. There was a lot of deception going on. I know personally some very good hearted leaders who were outsted because they didn't want to get into the money issues. And I also know of some who were ousted because they tried to stand up to the infidelity issues. And it eventually got to the point where anyone who utterered anything contrary to what VP said, you would have your face melted. Loy followed in the same manner. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. In any sane environment they should have been put on trial and had their a@@es thrown in jail.

I'm in it, I'm in it. Some good lookin' folks.

I posted this in the music thread but I think anyone will enjoy this inspirational piece from the UK Idol competition.It demonstrates how you will never know what you can accomplish until you try. This is something you can try at home.

Thought you all would enjoy this. I'ts a phone salesman who trys out for UK Idol. You never know what you can do until you try.Out of the mouth of babes-

Happy Bday-Hope you have a day that'll knock your "Socks" off.

Belle-This is for you- l LOVE BEER. I'm not responsible for these bad jokes= My husband and I divorced over religious differences. He thought he was God, and I didn't. -------------------------------------------------- Marriage is a three-ring circus: Engagement ring, wedding ring, and suffering. ------------------------------------------------- For Sale : Wedding dress, size 8. Worn once by mistake. ------------------------------------------------- There are two times when a man doesn't understand a woman: Before marriage and after marriage. ------------------------------------------------- Why were hurricanes usually named after women? Because when they arrive, they're wet and wild, but when they go, they take your house and car. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The woman applying for a job in a Florida lemon grove seemed way too qualified for the job. "Look Miss," said the foreman, "have you any actual experience in picking lemons?" "Well, as a matter if fact, yes!" she replied.? "I've been divorced three times." ---------------------------------------------------------------- An old man goes to the Wizard to ask him if he can remove a curse he has been living with for the last 40 years. The Wizard says, "Maybe, but you will have to tell me the exact words that were used to put the curse on you." The old man says without hesitation, "I now pronounce you man and wife." ---------------------------------------------------------------- Reason Why It's So Hard To Solve A Redneck Murder: All the DNA is the same. --------------------------------------------------------------- I was in the express lane at the store quietly fuming. Completely ignoring the sign, the woman ahead of me had slipped into the check-out line pushing a cart piled high with groceries. Imagine my delight when the cashier beckoned the woman to come forward looked into the cart and asked sweetly, "So which six items would you like to buy?" Wouldn't it be great if that happened more often? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Because they had no reservations at a busy restaurant, my elderly neighbor and his wife were told there would be a 45-minute wait for a table. "Young man, we're both 90 years old," the husband said . "We may not have 45 minutes." They were seated immediately. ----------------------------------------------------- ---------- The reason congressmen try so hard to get re-elected is that they would hate to have to make a living under the laws they've passed. ---------------------------------------------------------------- All eyes were on the radiant bride as her father escorted her down the aisle. They reached the altar and the waiting groom; the bride kissed her father and placed something in his hand. The guests in the front pews responded with ripples of laughter. Even the priest smiled broadly. As her father gave her away in marriage, the bride gave him back his credit card. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Three friends from the local congregation were asked, "When you're in your casket, and friends and congregation members are mourning over you, what would you like them to say?" Artie said: "I would like them to say I was a wonderful husband, a fine spiritual leader, and a great family man." Eugene commented: "I would like them to say I was a wonderful teacher and servant of God who made a huge difference in people's lives." Al said: "I'd like them to say, "Look, he's moving!" ---------------------------------------------------------------- Smith climbs to the top of Mt. Sinai to get close enough to talk to God. Looking up, he asks the Lord... "God, what does a million years mean to you?" The Lord replies, "A minute." Smith asks, "And what does a million dollars mean to you?" The Lord replies, "A penny." Smith asks, "Can I have a penny?" The Lord replies, "In a minute." ---------------------------------------------------------------- A man goes to a shrink and says, "Doctor, my wife is unfaithful to me. Every evening, she goes to Larry's bar and picks up men. In fact, she sleeps with anybody who asks her! I'm going crazy. What do you think I should do?" "Relax," says the Doctor, "take a deep breath and calm down. Now, tell me, exactly where is Larry's bar?" ---------------------------------------------------------------- John was on his deathbed and gasped pitifully. "Give me one last request, dear," he said. "Of course, John," his wife said softly. "Six months after I die," he said, "I want you to marry Bob." "But I thought you hated Bob," she said. With his last breath John said, "I do!" ---------------------------------------------------------------- A man goes to see the Rabbi. "Rabbi, something terrible is happening and I have to talk to you about it." The Rabbi asked, "What's wrong?" The man replied, "My wife is poisoning me." The Rabbi , very surprised by this, asks, "How can that be?" The man then pleads, "I'm telling you, I'm certain she's poisoning me, what should I do?" The Rabbi then offers, "Tell you what. Let me talk to her, I'll see what I can find out and I'll let you know." A week later the Rabbi calls the man and says, "Well, I spoke to your wife. I spoke to her on the phone for three hours. You want my advice?" The man said yes and the Rabbi replied, "Take the poison"

Angel-Great song. Thanks so much for posting it.

Remember Jonny said what "men" want. We don't always get what we want, but we can keep on dreamin'. Seriously though I think most men really want a women who will 1- Love us for who we are, not who they want us to be. 2-Not be too judgemental-because that drives us mental. 3-Be willing to give a little, because we always think we are right even when we realize we are wrong. Sometimes we need a little nudge in the right direction. 4-And it helps when you have similar interests. Figure that out before you get too involved or he will be golfing all day and you'll be sittin' home watching Oprah. (Most men are going to say what's wrong with that.)

Graphic? I'd like to see it too. LOL I never did go for that stuff. I think it's all a crap shoot when it comes down to it. To me it's like telling God what to do. Sort of figures in the twi thinking ie. "if you believe and act it will happen" doesn't it. Don't fool with mother nature-(whatever that is).

I've got the same problem. Let's start a group, "read-anon". We read "on and on".

The Way definately made too much fuss about the spirit realm. We never want to instill fear in people, especially our kids. Perhaps you could talk to the parents. They may not be aware of what their kids are saying. You could ask them that they teach their kids not to push their groups doctrines on others. If they don't heed your request I'd stay away from religious folks who push their doctrines on my kids. There are plenty of good folks out there, who don't have issues like this.

Can anyone help me find the words to a cover song someone did back in twi days called "Mamas don't let your babies grow up to be Homos". The original was about cowbowy's but I want the words to the one about the homos-just for campfire type fun settings. (No offence to homosexuals).