Tom Strange

This should really be posted over here as well... I'm on the outside, looking inside, what do I see? Much confusion, disillusion, all around me.

ya know wackster... I'm wondering if a lot of us are going to react that way... because we were in a cult... really... I'm serious... I do find I have less emotion a lot of times... I'm on the outside, looking inside, what do I see? Much confusion, disillusion, all around me.

:D--> I'm on the outside, looking inside, what do I see? Much confusion, disillusion, all around me.

ahhh... JL... you homophobe! I'm on the outside, looking inside, what do I see? Much confusion, disillusion, all around me.

hahahahaha myseestorEx! that's funny! unless you tell the joke to Sarah Jessica Parker... I'm on the outside, looking inside, what do I see? Much confusion, disillusion, all around me.

OM: to answer your question: YES Dude, I'm not wasting my breath on you anymore. If it didn't happen to you, it didn't happen. If you didn't hear it yourself, it didn't get said. If you didn't see it, it didn't occur. I get it. I get you. I'm on the outside, looking inside, what do I see? Much confusion, disillusion, all around me.

do you know how you can tell the toothbrush was invented in Arkansas? . . . . . Because if it wasn't, it'd be called a teethbrush! I'm on the outside, looking inside, what do I see? Much confusion, disillusion, all around me.

Def: Def, this whole thing is absurd... we're talking humans in both cases here, plain and simple, humans...to the first point, they can't be anymore f'd up than they are now... humans in both cases... to the second point, the dynamic? the dynamic is different in every relationship because you've got different humans in each relationship... Isn't it time we stopped this thread? Neither side isn't going to convince the other to change their position... this thread is in danger of taking over the length of one of Mike's threads or (God Forbid!) the 9th corps thread... I'm on the outside, looking inside, what do I see? Much confusion, disillusion, all around me.

Sorry, couldn't resist!!! :D--> :D--> :D--> :D--> :D--> :D--> :D--> :D--> :D--> Beers all around! I'm on the outside, looking inside, what do I see? Much confusion, disillusion, all around me.

(((Jonny Lingo))) that doesn't make us gay does it? I'm on the outside, looking inside, what do I see? Much confusion, disillusion, all around me.

so sad to hear IMF, that you can't put "I was in a cult for 'x' years" on your resume... ...kinda sad... :(--> I'm on the outside, looking inside, what do I see? Much confusion, disillusion, all around me.

OM: I was around then... it was implied heavily and said out right, that God wouldn't protect us and Satan would kill us because of the Word we knew and the work we had done for God...I'm on the outside, looking inside, what do I see? Much confusion, disillusion, all around me.

COOL PJ... methinks you've done a lot of the "right" things throughout this child's life... whether good luck or sound thinking (or a little of both)... you are to be congratulated... I'm on the outside, looking inside, what do I see? Much confusion, disillusion, all around me.

That's a little like the pot calling the kettle black isn't it OM? That's what you've done.Now, I answered your question. Please answer mine: Do you believe the incidents of abuse shared on these pages? Yes or No If Yes, then you have no argument here. If No, then I've got no time for you... This is not a gray issue. The forum is "Child Abuse in TWI". There are many people sharing of things that happened TO THEM. Not heresay, actual testimony. These same people say that TWI was informed and did nothing or, in some cases, helped cover it up. By action, TWI implicitly condoned. There is no gray. If you do not believe, that is your choice. And it would be sad if that is the case. QUIT USING THE SPOON OR THE ROD TO AVOID THE ISSUE. I'm on the outside, looking inside, what do I see? Much confusion, disillusion, all around me.

someone way back in the pages here brought up the point "your rights end where they infringe upon my rights" (or words to that effect)... I'm just so puzzled about the reactions... how does allowing folks to have a recognized civil union infringe upon your rights? let's have a beer Jonboy... People are going to be gay or not gay whether this thing passes or not. Their lifestyle, their behavior, THEY are going to be there to infringe upon your rights or not... whether they gain this recognition of civil union or not... IF they infringe upon your rights, then they have overstepped theirs... and there are many who do this already BOTH hetero and homo... IF you detest the lifestyle that much, that's your deal... but I don't really see how the recognition of someone's civil union really would effect anyone that much... you're going to detest no matter what... some of you seem to want to keep "them" from having this benefit of society when, in reality, it wouldn't effect your life one way or another... they're going to be who they are regardless of the outcome of the whole thing... and so are you... I'm on the outside, looking inside, what do I see? Much confusion, disillusion, all around me.

jen-o, I had heard that quote "his blood be upon us and on our children." IS in the movie, he just took out the subtitles... they say it, kind of in the background... at least that's what Mel said on his deal with Diane Sawyer... the kids all did OK with it? I'm on the outside, looking inside, what do I see? Much confusion, disillusion, all around me.

Rockster? I'm on the outside, looking inside, what do I see? Much confusion, disillusion, all around me.

myseestorEx, I thought that might be what OM was referring to, but since he was stating it I just wanted to make sure I got it from his perspective... OM, this threat of death... the greasespot thing that Craig is famous for... do you think it just started with him or TWI-2? where do you think he got the idea? I remember VeePee saying many times "if you leave this ministry, you're walking out from under God's umbrella of protection..." I'm on the outside, looking inside, what do I see? Much confusion, disillusion, all around me.

IMF, we were told "you'll be a greasespot by midnight if you walk away from this ministry"... (that's where the name of this place came from) (but we did have our free will) OM: what are the dates that seperate TWI-1 and 2? (really, I don't know) I'm on the outside, looking inside, what do I see? Much confusion, disillusion, all around me.

dangit CW! you mean you don't have one of those pointy black hats? I'm on the outside, looking inside, what do I see? Much confusion, disillusion, all around me.

Oh!... and I got a new laptop with the centrino deal... and a wireless router... now I can hang and not have to sit in that uncomfortable chair upstairs (I don't know how you do it myseestorEx)... it's a pretty cool thing... (!seihcet eht ot ton ebyam, em ot tsael tA) I'm on the outside, looking inside, what do I see? Much confusion, disillusion, all around me.

where will feelowsheep be tonight? I must plan the refreshments accordingly... I'm on the outside, looking inside, what do I see? Much confusion, disillusion, all around me.

amen niKa, amen... I'm on the outside, looking inside, what do I see? Much confusion, disillusion, all around me.

OM, this is a thread on child abuse in TWI, you'll have to start a new thread (or threads) to cover child abuse in the Catholic Church...I'm on the outside, looking inside, what do I see? Much confusion, disillusion, all around me.

There once was a girl we called Dot It's true that we love her a lot So let's all stand and cheer We love when she's here And her love sure does hit the spot have a happening day DotDotDot I'm on the outside, looking inside, what do I see? Much confusion, disillusion, all around me.