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PFAL: An Unorthodox Translation
Tom Strange replied to Tom Strange's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
That's OK Mike... I'll just "assume" that you "saw" Jesus spiritually because he couldn't have been here physically cuz I heard veepee say that he's only coming back once... and I don't remember veepee saying that it was "to see Mike"... so if you don't want to tell us, that's your business... I'm sure others are curious as well... And you just keep on throwing out your stuff... I'll just keep on asking you about it... you keep on complaining about the fact that I "bog you down" with my questions, my wanting explanations... did you ever think that there wouldn't be any "bogging" questions without "bogging" declarations by you? So... either be prepared to be asked questions or don't make up crazy stuff to post... either way it's in your court... Know what I mean? OH... and I think those latest quotes of mine were from the "Open Letter to Brady" thread IIRC... and I assure you that I'm not in any sort of club who's purpose it is to tag-team you... that's just your paranoia showing through again... Carry on with the plan of the day... -
Hey! I'm pretty sure we can make it say whatever we want!
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well if you know it wasway go ahead and spill it and give us a hard one in return... I can't go because I googled...
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The way you phrased it earlier didn't really make any distinction between the two... so is that your answer? That you've seen him spiritually? I'll ask you the same question back: What proof do you have that what you saw was not the counterfeit? Like you claim to have seen in the 60's? How do you know it wasn't just another one of those?
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hey! there was a moon up in the sky where I live too! it was only on the bottom though...
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Top... I heard that ALL (without exception or distinction) cats were well behaved before Eve got Adam to bite the apple...
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...and I hear that B.I. 2 is really really bad...
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I kind of like the way they show you how much they really care: "...nothing on the market today provides a more effective way to mold your special cat into the well-mannered creature God intended." (tee hee) Kelly would probably lock me out of the house...
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But what was his guess? Ohh.... DOH! ... now I see it... "Blow"...
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So then you're talking "spiritually" here??? Mike 2/2/04, 12:17am. "When you see Christ in his glory he will be holding a PFAL book in his hand and teaching you from it." Mike 2/3/04 5:22am. "Jesus Christ appointed Dr his spokesman. Jesus Christ is VERY interested in PFAL. He told me so." Vickles 2/3/04, 7:51pm. "So, Mike, you weren't kidding about JC coming with a PFAL book in his hand." Mike, 2/3/04, 7:53pm. "Totally serious. I've already seen him this way more than once." ...you haven't actually physically seen him? just spiritually???
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I can't figure out Raf's pic... I thought it was "I am forever blowing bubbles" but I cheated... ...that came out in 1930!
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doesn't ring a bell at all.. so I googled... is this some sort of regional band?
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I loved sitting in the family section at Chavez Ravine... of course once we had seats on the first row right behind the first base dugout... but I liked the family section seats better overall (with binoculars of course)...
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hmmm... it still shows for me... I'll look for a different link... Maybe this will work As mentioned before... no need to thank me...
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That's a good point TL...
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WD... that's a good point... but not THE point... you have said (many times I believe) that you have found things wrong with TWI, even with 'the class'... so my point was that any truth that you found in the class, was not from TWI (although they may have 'presented' it) but from God (regardless of who 'presented' it) and by discarding the non-truth part you would have a better, firmer foundation. Surely you can't argue with that logic... or maybe you can as you keep on trying to change what I've been saying...
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Raf... is that a picture answering dooj's picture?
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Mike... when comparing someone's situation and how they reacted to your situation and how you react... that's comparing yourself to (in this case) Noah. And I'm not attacking you. You made the statement that you had seen Jesus. That's a bold statement... and if you're not going to tell us what he looked like physically... then please tell us how we're supposed to believe that statement... and if we can't believe that statement how can we believe any other statement you have made? I'm not attacking you Mike, although you do always seem to want to play the victim, I'm trying to figure out if you have any credibility, to determine if you or your message should be heeded... and all you ever do is say "you just have to believe me" (but in many many more words than that). Why would you make such a statement? Even you would know that if you made a statement like that you would be questioned on it. And I know that previously you've explained things like this as (paraphrasing) "sometimes I just say things to shake things up" ... to that I would ask this: How would we know that you weren't just telling us to take it on faith that PFAL is God-Breathed just to 'shake things up'???
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You're up Green Lantern... (I love Jan & Dean's stuff)
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Is it "Rats!"...? :)
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Here's a column by one of the DMN writers today. It's an interesting take. (I'll just post it here so that you won't have to register... but if you want to it's at www.dallasnews.com). He makes some good points here it is: Selig striking out in cleanup role Commissioner can only lose in probe, which won't end steroids mess By Tim Cowlishaw, Dallas Morning News Sports Feature Columnist, 01:29 AM CST on Friday, March 31, 2006 "Kicking and screaming all the way, no doubt, Commissioner Bud Selig announced that Major League Baseball will launch an investigation into an enormous problem people have known about for years. What a blue ribbon day for baseball. With the announcement that former Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell will head the investigation into the game's steroids problem, Selig initiated a battle that he has to fight but cannot win. Those are never fun. If Mitchell and his investigators turn up new evidence beyond what has already emerged from the BALCO investigation regarding Barry Bonds, Jason Giambi and Gary Sheffield, well, that won't reflect kindly on Selig's stewardship of this game. And if they don't come up with anything more than the San Francisco Chronicle reporters did in their exhaustive book, Game of Shadows , well, then that doesn't look like it was much of an investigation, was it? Selig cannot win here. If he doesn't investigate, then critics continue to wonder why he has his head planted so firmly in the sand. If he does, then it's too little, too late. But that is his own fault. Selig knew the game had a problem long before Jose Canseco's book detailed his and others' steroid use. After finally getting the Players Association on board with testing, more than 5 percent of the game's major leaguers tested positive in 2003. Why didn't the investigation start then? It's quite simple. The money was still rolling in as long as major league stadiums had turned themselves into launching pads for the game's chemically-enhanced sluggers. When the money's stacking up, you don't spend much time asking, "What's the problem?" It's hard to fathom what conclusions can be reached in this investigation. Players such as Mark McGwire, Sammy Sosa and Rafael Palmeiro were called in front of Congress a year ago. They either said nothing or, quite possibly in Palmeiro's case, based on his subsequent positive test, flat out lied. Are they going to be more forthcoming with these investigators than they were under oath before Congress? My major concern with the investigation is that it is all fueled by Bonds and his pursuit of not just Hank Aaron's all-time home run record but Babe Ruth's mark that stood until 1974. Lots of folks will tell you that baseball, the media, even the fans don't want to see an angry black man pass a revered white man in the record book. There's no denying that, for some, race has to be a part of the steroids fervor at this moment. That doesn't mean it's the whole story or the major component. But, for some, it's definitely a piece of it. Everyone could see that McGwire had grown to massive proportions when he broke Roger Maris' record in 1998. Although surly at times, he was mostly portrayed as a lovable lug. And Sosa was the happy-go-lucky Latin player who actually made McGwire more likable with his smile and support of the Cardinals first baseman as the two pursued Maris together. So nobody looked real hard to get behind the scenes as to the source of their unmatched power. By and large, Bonds generates no such love, not to anyone outside the Bay Area, anyway. And now that his use of performance enhancers has been detailed in a book, he's left with no real option other than to say, as he did in front of a grand jury, that he didn't know what his trainer was giving him was a steroid. And hope that five people out there buy that story. But you have to know that given the number of players who tested positive a year ago, many of them not great home-run hitters – many of them pitchers, for that matter – that Bonds wasn't the only one cheating the game in recent years. So when all is said and done and the latest investigation is complete, what do we do about his achievements? And is Maris restored as the single-season home run record holder if incriminating evidence against McGwire and Sosa is uncovered? Yes, it is an unholy mess. But it's one that Selig and Players Association director Donald Fehr and teams such as the Giants – who knew what Bonds' trainer was all about, yet still permitted him clubhouse access – either ignored or fueled. Baseball is our one sport that we can break down into the minutest details to get at the game's inner workings. New statistical analyses are created each year, lending us mathematical credence as we argue about the game's best hitters and pitchers. This investigation won't end with a nice, clean slate that tells us whether or not Bonds or Sosa or Palmeiro or anyone else is a true Hall of Famer. A mess of this enormity, with so much evidence either unavailable or destroyed, can only be examined. It cannot be cleaned up. "
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Like you say WD... "truth is truth"... foundations built upon "truth", pure truth, would be strongest... foundations built upon a mix of "truth" and TWI could never be as strong... because they have the weakness of TWI mixed in... so why not construct yourself a foundation "free of TWI-isms"... that would be strongest wouldn't it? ...that would be "best" wouldn't it?
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aww... c'mon Mike... inquiring minds want to know... if you don't want to tell us what he was wearing, could you tell us what possessed you to make such a claim? thousands??? plural??? who respect VPW AND PFAL??? Mike, I don't think you can find 'thousands' who (at this point in time) do both ...most certainly not at Greasespot Cafe. On what do you base your numbers? IF you are really being honest about your doing this for the "thousands who respect VPW and PFAL"... you're in the wrong church buddy... (hint: Myspace.com has a much broader audience that's not nearly as biased)
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Latter Day Saints Catechesis
Tom Strange replied to markomalley's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
60k... I'm pretty sure that's the number I heard as well... I of course do not know for sure, but it does kind of seem like a "no we do not condone it" but then again it doesn't seem like they go looking for it either... and I know that a lot of the polygamists do not call themselves "straight" LDS... they're always some 'offshoot'... I don't really care if a man wants to have more than one wife... hey, if he's really that into pain/punishment who am I to object?... :)