Tom Strange

and don't walk on the grass!

I'm just curious... Would it be possible for anyone here to elaborate a little bit on this? How did they explain the change? Thanks for your input.

A very salient point Abigail.

"Spool Muscles" ???

Well... I'm sure that there are some groups out there that believe/propound just about any viewpoint... but IMO that doesn't necessarily lend any validity to their point(s)...

We don't always agree... but then, who does? Happening day dude!

happening day to you!

hope your day was/is a happening one!

Oh... and I know that you're human... and no one expects perfection... just civility and to have the golden rule applied... we all fall short at times, we just try not to make it a practice...

Mike, without posting bunches of words as backup... take what dooj said about the way we were 'supposed' to pray, then your answer that it's meant that way as instructed in written pfal, then her response that that's how "he" and "they" did it, then your response about how that's not the way written pfal handles it... BUT the point it Mike... THEY, HE were our examples... and yes we were led (therefore taught) to believe that's how it was supposed to be... whether or not it was in written pfal

well... like I said... I know who it is but wouldn't have known without google-ing... so I'm out... Raf might know... he's a youngster...

Now I'm not arguing here... and I have to admit that I haven't really hung out with any radical feminists... but "ALL sex is rape"??? So they (the radical feminists) don't have ANY sex at all? I don't know man... sounds a little far fetched to me...

good question... how are we defining "good"? (I'm just trying to think this through) I know I've heard of cases where folks who were "pillars of the community" were caught perpetrating. Perhaps they're "good" but not completely sane... at least not in that area of their lives. I guess then we have to get into a definition of "sane"... and then what is "sane" for this culture...

The chat rooms were mentioned... these do seem to make it easier for the perpetrators... since this is really the only one I've ever been to, don't they post in BIG BOLD LETTERS that regardless of your screen name, they know who you are (or at least the account information from your ISP) and that they are keeping a record of it? If they don't, why wouldn't they? I don't know if these measures would've stopped... In the middle of typing this I started thinking about how Doyle (in particular) didn't seem to care that his info was known... and then I remembered that on that website I posted about, the guys were upfront about their ages and didn't seem to care... And they'd really have to be seriously dumb not to know that there are people out there posing as young boys and girls just for the express purpose of catching them... So I don't know... I'm trying to think how to take away the chat room vehicle from them... but it's the internet... couldn't there be some sort of software, one of those spider things, that could check for chats between older ages and younger ages? Just trying to think of some way to close the chat room door since it seems to be so wide open.

This was in the Dallas Morning News under the headline "Budget Wines": PINOT GRIS/PINOT GRIGIO Lindemans, South Eastern Australia, Bin 85 Pinot Grigio 2005, $8.99 The wine displays intense melon fruit with medium body, good acidity and a long finish. CHARDONNAY Hardys, South Eastern Australia, Nottage Hill, Chardonnay 2005, $6.99 This is a nice, clean, fruity wine, with aromas and flavors of apple, citrus and vanilla, with good balance and length. Little Boomey, South Australia, Chardonnay 2004, $5.99 A soft, round wine with baked apple and spice aromas and flavors and good length in the finish. Virgin Vines, California, Chardonnay 2004, $9.99 This is a light chardonnay with pear, green apple, vanilla and faint tropical fruit. CABERNET SAUVIGNON Five Rivers, Paso Robles, Cabernet Sauvignon 2003, $8.99 A well-balanced wine showing concentrated, lush, juicy, black and red berry fruit with spicy oak notes. Pascual Toso, Mendoza, Maipu Vineyards, Estate Bottled, Cabernet Sauvignon 2003, $9.99 A tasty, lively wine with summer berry fruit and nice balance. A great value. SYRAH/SHIRAZ Bianchi "Elsa," Argentina, Syrah 2004, $9 This wine has "chunky-monkey" ripe, dense, black fruit spiced with pepper, and a finish that lingers. KingFish, California, Shiraz 2004, $4.99 A classic shiraz with deep, dark color showing reds and purples. It is youthful, with deep, blueberry fruit. Extremely well-made. Virgin Vines, California, Shiraz 2004, $9.99 A wonderfully easy-to-drink wine with red cherry fruit. It is simple, lively and balanced.

And your point would be....? HaHaHa... you ladies are just having a blast with this aren't you? Good for you... now I have to go cry 'cause I'm a sensitive guy and got my feelers hurt.... (that was funny krys!) Besides... they're talking about Indian women aren't they?

Well... I googled and I know nothing of this artist... too recent! (although I do have a Yellowcard CD)... sorry WW... don't know "it"...

Mike, you're treating folks like scolded children again. Please take care not to. We assume that we have to put up with some attitude from you, please don't overstep.

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If people want to get actively involved in capturing these degenerate humans there are links at the site I posted on page one that tell you how to get involved at a lot of different levels. They rely on volunteers but I again warn you, it's not for the faint of heart. They'll teach you how to be involved with the local police departments, they'll coach you. It gets people off of the street before they can do any (or more) damage.

TIME OUT (please). Can those with differing opinions than Sarori's respond without attacking? Can Satori respond to them without attacking? Both "sides" of this argument want the same thing: for it to stop. Both "sides" of this argument agree that it's a heinous crime against humanity. Do we really need to be "attacking" each other? Can "we" put aside our attacks and find some common ground to discuss reasonably ways to deal with this? I don't think we're going to solve it here, but I think that both "sides" agree that the folks committing these crimes need to be "off the streets. Can't we figure out a way to do that?

Go right ahead if'n you want to young lady (if you can find it through the snow and ice)... makes no difference to me! Texas... not a state... a state of mind...

Rhino was lying with a dog??!!??!! (oh my!)

well... I probably won't see it... I don't think it's a good idea for a movie (entertainment)... I'll watch stuff on the history channel or dicovery channel to learn... but I don't think I'm going to feel like going to a "movie" about this... JMO

that's nice MO... (and I'll say this just for you)... we're Texas, we don't care about no confederacy! Yer awl Yankees!