Tom Strange

Oldies, please have a little heart and don't turn this thread into another one of your commercials for PFAL. CES/STFI is the offspring of TWI/PFAL so please just don't go there. You can start another thread in this forum for that if you wish but please don't bog it down, or dillute it with your commercial. YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THAT WILL LEAD, IT'S WHY YOU DO IT AND IT'S WRONG. So stop already. Please.

(I'm thinking maybe some Twinkies as well, that should cover most of the food groups)

Folks of the Cafe, I am in need of your help. I'm putting together a new MAL pack.. how long do Slim Jims last? ...in the wrapper unopened... I could put a bunch of them (and some Tums) in there couldn't I??? Thanks!

Guys, I need your help. I'm putting together a new MAL pack.. how long do Slim Jims last? ...in the wrapper unopened... I could put a bunch of them (and some Tums) in there couldn't I??? Thanks! I think I'll seek council in the open forum as well... (no offense)

(looking)... TBone... I don't see anyone there! Did they forget to put the picture in? There's just a mirror looking thing... let me look again... (looking again)... Yep... TBone, I must've gotten a bad copy... I don't see anyone on the cover...

Yes, a good post T&O, I think you summed it up very well... I also think the reason a lot of folks are posting on this thread is to try and help others... and I think that's God's heart as well...

Mary Tyler Moore Alka Seltzer Fizz Plop Plop Building Plaza Vatican? Ants

I think you need to post a real show...

Slipper my brother... to hell? I've been there, but I would not want to go during the summer and if I go when the weather is cooler here then I have to pay those steep seasonal prices! Instead, can I just be condemned to spend the entire summer here? It's often hotter than hell here during those months... even worse if I go to the ballpark in Arlington... I had a dream last night that reverend2Ts was about to make a visit... there was a rainbow, and at it's base was an empty pot with a sign that said "for the gold, go to the other base"... so I started the journey, got to the other base and there was an empty pot with a sign that said "for the gold, go to the other base"... so I started the journey... 2 bases, 2 pots, 2 blondes were sitting in a bar... 2Ts! Can you see it people?

gee thanks TBone! ...he's probably headed my way! (I'll just send him towards dooj)

Thanks Mom! (knew you would)

I was asked last night in chat why I was posting on this thread. I replied 'because I'm curious'. I'm curious as to what folks feelings are, the folks that are involved with CES. There have been a number, a large number of excellent, thoughtful posts on this thread. I think it's valid for any of us who wish to, to post on this thread. We were in TWI, which CES/STFI sprang from. Offense seemed to be taken to "cheap comparisons to TWI". In my opinion it shouldn't have been. Belle's post points out a lot of similarities. My last post, where I ask about folks wanting to keep the leaders when they knew what was happening, infers another comparison... I just didn't flat out say it. The comparison was that leaders knew what was going on and did nothing... or if they did something and it didn't work, stayed around anyway... in my mind this makes them complicit as well... I'm only referring to the 'prophetic council' stuff... that there are other big problems has been brought up as well, I don't know about them... I don't 'rejoice' in any of this. I don't think that anyone here really does... as all of us have been through something similar before. I understand that a lot of folks here are finding out these things, or the depth of these things, for the first time and are shocked and heartbroken and have a natural impulse to defend, what in their hearts and minds, are good people and a good ministry... wasn't that also a lot of folks first reaction when in TWI? It/they may have been... I think it's starting to unfold here what it/they are now... As you folks from CES/STFI that are new here come to "see what's going on" please make sure you read: Post #172 on page 9 (by Socks), this post offers some excellent advice Post #190 on page 10 (by Mark Sanguinetti), this post shows (in detail) how this 'prophecy' business being wrong was brought before the CES/STFI leaders in 2000 Sorry for the long post.

wasn't it "I Believe in Father Christmas" or something like that?

I don't remember whether it was at an AC or in rez, but we had one named "the sons of sunesis"... even had t-shirts made...

shhh-f??? never heard of a TV show called shhh-f...

WOW... almost 3900 views in less than 72 hours... Hi Chrispy, I'm not singling you out here... just borrowing a couple of your lines... your sentiments quoted above have also been stated by others... It sounds to me (and my perception could be wrong) that folks are "hoping for the best from the Theisens, Dan Gallagher, John Schoenheit and John Lynn" so they'll be able to get CES/STFI "back on track" or as Jeff put it: What is there to "balance"? That practice needs to be banished from CES/STFI doesn't it? I clearly understand "praying for" or "hoping for the best" for these folks, but wouldn't you also want that for the Graeser's? I may have missed it, but I don't think I've read anything in any of these posts about "praying for" or "hoping for the best" for the Graeser's... Which leads me to my perception that people still want these other folks to remain in positions of high responsibility in CES/STFI. This is what really puzzles me: if all of these folks were in the higher levels of responsibility WHILE ALL OF THIS WAS HAPPENING, and they didn't stop it or "blow the whistle" or whatever you want to call it... why would you want them to remain in the position of responsibility? Sure pray for them, hope for the best for them... and the Graeser's, too, but I wouldn't want them "still running" CES/STFI if I was involved... how could I trust them again? That doesn't mean I wouldn't be able to love them, etc... it just means that I wouldn't want them having stewardship over CES/STFI... at least not for the foreseeable future. They allowed it to happen as well. Or have I missed something?

correctamundo GSG

Do we get any cash with this award?

(let me know if you can't see some of these)

nose picking letter?

tree trunk something? nah... I can only see a hollow log... os lli sseug neewollaH...

they're twins?

From way back in the first post: Maybe more and more people are putting their nativity scenes out in late September, early October...

...well, I'd say ELP (as a group) or Greg Lake (as the singer) ...but I've been wrong before!

two guys a girl ma kettle a sign ???