Tom Strange

I loved Itchycoo Park... it (the song) was ahead of its time... continuing the intertwining... (I'll try to choose one that's not too obscure) I can see the sunset in your eyes Brown and grey and blue besides Clouds are stalking islands in the sun I wish I could buy one out of season

Raf, were you trying to establish it? ck... I'm glad God called you here to learn the error of your ways...

Well... I haven't heard of anyone who has called him... Abigail sent him an email, maybe others have... she's gotten no response... it's his whole "attitude" that comes across in "his posts" Jonny... at least that's the way he comes across to me... I could be wrong, but I don't think I am... I think I'd expect a "feeding frenzy" like reaction. People who post at this board have been in TWI. They have very high/heated emotions when it comes to people being hurt and used by ANY organization. Did he really answer anything in that "position paper"??? The way I read it was that his position was that there was a problem, then he came to believe that MG and KAG were the problem, he implored MG to step aside, and then he agreed with the majority of the board that MG and KAG were the problem, and one way or another MG and KAG are going away and things will be "all better"... This problem is a lot bigger than MG and KAG, they're simply ONE manifestation of it... and the board (and JAL) were there all along while this problem (these problems) were creeping in and taking root in CES/STFI... where was their vigilance for God's people and Word then?

B-b-but it's tomorrow there slipper... you've already seen and done today!

Well Jonny, I'm not on any wagon... and I don't find this salacious at all and I certainly haven't seen any "glee over all of this stuff"... but we have different eyes. And again, I think it's sad, unfortunate and wrong when anyone is hurt or abused... As for folks "jumpin" on JAL. Well, what do you expect? He does his "drive-by" posts here every so often while proclaiming he doesn't want to use the internet to communicate... well... what was it he just did? He uses the internet to communicate... he just wants it to be one way communication... for us all to 'bow at his feet and kiss his ring'... AND (IMHO) then steps back so he can say "I don't use it" (setting himself above it all) while at the same time saying that those of us who do were "anonymous people who lack love and courage"... Yeah... a lot of love there... I've had it with his disingenuous and pious attitude and his total lack of humility... TELL ME THIS, HAS JAL EVER ACTED REPENTANT FOR ANYTHING UNTIL HE WAS CAUGHT? ...exactly... and now he comes out with his letter to Mark G, couched on both ends in smarminess... I don't see anyone taking any particular glee in CES problems, I see concern for those that have been or could be effected by this bad doctrine they've let creep in... "they" being the board of directors... As for "jumping on JAL"??? well heck yeah! And he deserves it!!! (In my opinion and I'm thinking a few others opinion here as well). Don't confuse an unwillingness to accept JAL's swill with the posts opposing the actions of the board of CES... they're two different things. No glee in the CES thing and utter contempt at the audacity of JAL to fail to be honest... AGAIN.

If I had to choose what to put in my MALPack... it'd be MUSTARD!

Yellow Mustard??? You mean like regular old 'Frenches'??? That's all I will allow on my Hot Dogs, Ham and Cheese or Turkey Sandwiches. ...but then again, your name is "Sushi"

yeah... we got a nice soaking 'all day' rain on Sunday... much needed... slipper... since it's tomorrow there, please post who will win the games tonight (here) so's I can make a call... :)

Isn't that itchycoo park? ...the small faces? quite a little bit of "intertwining" we have going on here isn't it?

Really??? You can't honestly tell me that you don't believe the last portion of the "letter" wasn't addressed to the viewers of this forum... can you? Go back and read the last portion (the p.s.)... that's to the folks who are going to read it HERE. Where else to you think it's going to be posted on the internet?

Yes, those are good points Chris. OK, don't use the term then... (speaking for me) I didn't say or mean to imply that what has been talked about in this thread was "only attributable to a cult"... of course this kind of thing (sadly) does go on in a lot of organizations... but that doesn't mean that CES is or isn't a cult. And I find it equally sad whenever folks are used or taken advantage of...

Well... could use this one:

I don't know if it's the same cult, but it is a cult! And I continue to wonder (as have others) how anyone can trust the folks on the board to straighten this out when it happened on their watch... they've used up their trust

but candied yams are made from sweet potatoes aren't they? We had a couple of nice glazed pork roasts, some portabella mushrooms with rice, spinach and cheese, fresh green beans cooked in chicken broth, and red potatoes, rolls, etc. Twas all good. For dessert deep dish apple pies and some cheesecake like concoction my sister in law made that was delish... ...and Dixie Chick (the dog) got a big ole half a cows femur! (she did love it, too!)

Maybe it'll work out for him... he's definitely on the downside of his career arc... We traded prospects with the White Sox... it's tough to tell where we're going these days... I guess we just have to "keep the faith"... (plus, we have the whole Buck's gone thing going for us this year!)

I liked 'Bridge of Sighs'... then didn't get into to much of the rest of his stuff... Your turn waysider!

just a couple of things... (I don't know the picture) 1. Raf, where's your pic? 2. here is a site I thought you'd all enjoy (being movie folks): www.angryalien.com

ck... all that matters is that you're here fellowshipping... that is the will of the Lord (who called you to GSC).. he called you here to see the error of your ways... keep on hanging out here with us, you're getting closer young man... so much closer!

...I think I did have it once! ...got it from our cat named "Spook"... (named after a character on Top Cat) Cat Scratch Feeeeverrrrr! (the Motor City Madman, of course) Here's one that was recently in the news... She said "There is no reason, And the truth is plain to see," But I wandered through my playing cards And would not let her be

oh look!!! it's been Christmas for over an hour now... I guess I can say Happy Christmas to y'all now... !

ck... God called you here to see the error of your ways... I'm glad you're hanging around... the more you do, the closer you come to seeing that error... look into my eyes ck... look into my eyes :blink:

Well... flame me if you must but I pretty much use them interchangably... when I use that stuff... I much rather prefer MUSTARD! ...but my dear old Dad did used to call it "Mackeral Whip"...

All I want for Christmas is a Ho Ho Ho!

Of course, from the Latin facilis... I knew that...