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That is SOOOO weak. Belle, thanks for the info. Well, with 5 people, calculating percentages should be pretty easy. Yet another example of TWI trying to make it look good and everyone there knows that it is lame. How suppressed does your thinking have to be to ignore this? Truly sad. Does anyone know if they even have "classes" for them anymore?

Resistance is... Oops, wrong message board. ;-)

It is so good to be out! My life is my own again. Thanks to everyone here for being on GS to talk with about all of the good, bad, funny and not-so-funny parts of life as a TWIt.

Remember listening to new corpse assignments on the mandatory analversary phone call? This segment should be pretty short. Unless the do something to fill in the time. Maybe Rosie could read their bio or something? Or do they even bother any more? It must be embarrassing to trot out their class of five for everyone's mandatory applause.

CC, His absence was explained in the Vicster's work: Jesus Christ, Our PassedOver. copyright sometimeago by The Way Irrational

"Handjobs." LOL! Ahh... back rubs. We had a person who was a massage therapist in our twig when I first got roped into piffle. I had no idea what Vic was talking about but she could rub my shoulders any time. :=) Did I say that out loud? ;-)

Geo, You're brilliant, my man. :-) Another alternative would be to mark off the property into two sections. The area with ashes could charge an admission fee which would fund new jobs for all of the new corpse. Oh, wait, hold on, there are only 5! I guess if can be a small fee. LOL! CC, I agree. Emotions or what we think "is right" doesn't hold much weight in court. It is not illegal to be unkind. JT

OM and others, I came in after VP was dead but soon enough after to see the lingering effects. And, yes, I did ask my BC, LC and even went to HQ with my BC to ask questions. The answer? Geer and his crowd were possessed and the only question that deserved an answer was who I stood with? No answers of any kind were offered. Hard stop, no need to know on my part. Nope. Just make up your mind. Are you with us or against us. That was it. So, OM, some of did take the time to ask in a very nice, genuine way. Being new, I truly had no prior experience with or ties to any current or former TWI leaders. Heck, I was a nobody on their org chart. And we got shot down by at least one person at the BOT level. Happy? JT

WW, Great job on a balanced, comprehensive synopsis. Thank you for rescuing the thread. JT

What a weird picture! First, there are no power tools so this must be early 1900s at most. Which would be ok if it weren't for the African-American man in modern-looking clothes. Behind him is a guy who looks like the Gorton fisherman looking over his shoulder. Must be "genuine spiritual suspicion" on the overseers part who is out of the picture. Some of them look like peasant workers. More mysteries: Where is the hole from that big pile of dirt in the foreground? What are those people in the background doing? Must be corpse just standing around. And why DOES that guy look like the Gorton fisherman? JT

A new TV show by the Way Irrational: Blind Eye for the Normal Guy Premise: 5 Corpse who evaded "Genuine spriritual suspicion" get to make over a state. In one day and for the entire state, they have to: 1. Teach them how to fill out time sheets 2. Fire one or more Coordinators 3. Show the women how to be subservient and wear too much makeup 4. Instruct the men on how to lord over their spouse but shut up when the Blind Five speak. 5. Witness and pretend that no one responding is somehow a great victory for "The Word Of God." 6. Sell as much Way Irrational promo material as possible. The Twist: The Corpse who raises the least money gets M&A at the end of the show. The most obedient Fellowship coordinator gets to take his/her place on the next episode. JT

You're good OM, I'll give you that. Well practiced. It's unfortunate.

THW, Maybe they measure time in dog years? Who knows with those clowns. It's not like some innie is going to have the b**ls to ask. JT

Mr. H, You may be right. It's the corpse job to be a pain in your a**. ;-)

The existance of good people does not make an organization good. They have existed in the worst of places. TWI, based on it's overall impact, falls close to or in the category of worst of places. OM, You're doing a nice job of redirecting again. The question was regarding VPs discernment IF, IF, IF, IF, IF (there, did I say it enough for you?) Rosie was a lesbian, what does it say about his spiritual perception? (Oh, yes, VP could not guarantee her behavior any more than anyone else. Forgot that one.) Normally, I think conversations can flow however people want them to but there is an historical pattern of redirecting things away from VP with various techniques. Back to our regularly scheduled programming...

Suggested ways to celebrate the Analverary of the Way Irrational: 1. Put on a suit or dress (gender-appropriate!) and go to a large public place and stand around with a nametag. Shake everyone's hands. 2. Buy a folding chair, set the AC for 59 and listen to music on an old tape recorder. After 2 hours, I'll adjust the thermostat to 86 (or whatever is maximum) and run the shower to make it nice and sticky. Then I'll watch any movie I have seen enough to know the script by heart. Occassionally, I'll stand up and applaud for no reason. ... they'll lock me up for sure. 3. Find a complete stranger and ask to clean his/her house. If it seems they make less than me, find a wealthier person. Anyone already employing a maid or butler would be perfect. The next best would be anyone who has a house that is already clean. 4. Determine who the worst kid is in the local elementary school is and offer to babysit for free. Ask that I only do it on holidays or my birthday. 5. Offer my house to neighbor's for their party so their house doesn't get dirty. Ask them to invite only their messiest friends and not to clean before leaving. I'll do that. See if they'll let me give them over 10% of my paycheck to do it.

Dan, Rrr... I do remember that. And I remember being asked to carry my television to his house because he owned a cra**y 27" model and mine was 35". If I wanted to watch it for 3 weeks, it had to be disconnected, wrapped to prevent it getting broken in my back seat and lugged back into my house. 12 times doing this when it below freezing and at 11:30 at night. Not that I had a choice. And not that the Way Irrational would actually by their own AV equipment. When I bought a decent house (which I later had to sell), no more moving the tv. No, just take over my house. Although we didn't have it as bad. One couple rented a more central place with a great basement. It seemed like every class was then done there. Poor people. :-(

OM, There is an entire thread where I asked about the existence of proof on the topic. I have no proof as I never met VPW and do not know Rosie or Donna. That is why I phrased my question as conditional. "If she is", for example. It would be wrong for me to say it otherwise as I do not know either way. However, my question is, IF she is, what does it say about his spiritual perception? I'll put it to you, OM. If she was a lesbian while working for VP, how would it affect your view of his spiritual perception? Should he have caught something so significant? JT

Nice try, OM. I won't take the bait. My question was if there is proof that she is, why would VP not have caught it? I have nothing to prove as I never said he knew. In fact, if he didn't know, it's even worse for his credibility. Back to the question at hand.

OM quote: "Nothing. ... No man can guarantee the actions of another .." There wasn't anything in my question about guaranteeing anyone's actions. However, if I'm in charge, I AM responsible for monitoring the performance of those who report to me. If someone is working for me who lacks honesty, for example, I need to take remedial action or take them out of a position of responsibility. My question was 1. IF she was/is a lesbian 2 VP felt being one would disqualify her to be corps or any kind of leader 3. THEN where was his judgement and/or spiritual perception? Was he not sharp enough to catch such blatant behavior? She worked very closely with him over the years. If he didn't catch it when it was right under his nose, how sharp could the guy be? Of course, my views on responsibility assume a group deals in reality unlike the Way Irrational.

From the Thread on Rosie and Donna, there seems to be several folks with firsthand knowledge of them being more than friends. (Personally, I have none) If that is the case, what does it say about VP's judgement? Or any of the leaders that many held in such high regard? Where was the super-duper CP1 (indepth spiritual perception and awareness) they supposedly possessed? Didn't she coordinate many things for him like filming of classes over the years?

How many times did I sit through piffle. All of them. ;-) My count is over 20. If you subtract the time I was unconscious, daydreaming, etc. Maybe 5? Ugh, it was painful after the 10th time. Just brutal.

dm, Well said. Just about everyone I had hooked into the Way Irrational was gone before I left. Maybe they were the smart ones? No notes, no drama. Just stopped showing up. They must have figured it out by now. There were a couple of calls but apparently they got the hint. Although, and this made me chuckle. 6 months after my last time there, someone called and asked me if I had sent my money in for the facilities fee for a branch meeting! :-) Yeah, they keep their people FULLY informed. JT

So it sounds like the answer to my question is a loud YES! Can it get any worse there? Years of purging homosexuals, suspected homosexuals, people who admitted to being able to spell homosexual, etc. only to be taken over by one? Ha! It would be funny if it weren't so sad. Ok, here's a question: During LoyBoy's reign of terror and stupidity, did Donna or Rosie ever make loud, public statements about the homosexual witchhunt? Just as a side note, Oklahoma's, state bird is the Splittail Flycatcher. Sort of fits with LoyBoy's antics, doesn't it? ;-) JT

Happy Anniversary to The Way Irrational!