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Interesting... Ironically, membership on GSC might be used against a plaintiff to show they've recognized the harm they've suffered and therefore started the lawsuit "clock." JT

I think this is morbid.

Stayaway, Welcome! Any idea roughly how many adults that would be? Just curious. JT

This all so twisted, it should be a (not-quite) reality show. Rosie as Donald Trump? "Don't believe my teachings on debt? You're FIRED! Well, actually, you're new corpse assignment is in Pakistan." JT p.s. No actual Pakistanis were recruited in the making of this show...

Oak, Is the reason something you can share? If not, no problemo! JT

Amen!!!! It was my choice but wow was she hot! (Ok, just being honest here) JT

Leafy, Nice thought. JT

When I was in, we counted a lot of bogus people. There was a LOT of funny stuff going on to pump up the numbers. Twigs/Household fellowships were split even if it made them too small to be functional. Our "big" twig of 8 was split into two. That made a total of three in the local area which justified a job for a new corpse grad. No branch, no job. New corpse=new branch=new twig=growth!!!! Wow, he's amazing! Shows up and one month later, twigs are already splitting! What BS. At that time (early 2000s), a friend in northern VA said DC had four people. Actually, they had one former corpse and three people who came to her apartment for free food. Impressed yet? JT

Mmm.. Waysider, good point. The use of a person's past did seem to be for immediate gratification. So does that mean they never had a real long term plan other than accumulate cash? I know VP had all sorts of "vision" but how's the Corps Chalet working out, for example? THAT vision was just bait and switch. Maybe my concerns are giving them more credit than they deserve? Maybe they're just NOT that smart? JT

All, In another thread "WayGB still actively monitor this site", it occurred to me that TWI was a bit like the communists when it came to spying and record keeping. When communism collapsed, peoples files became public and it got UGLY. Many people's lives were ruined. After the big blowups in the 90s, TWI asked field leaders to report in on a number of things every week. Who came, how many showed up, etc. And there was ALWAYS a requirement to report "spiritually suspicious" behavior. Add that to the papers Corps candidates submitted about their life before the corps, stories on GS, etc., and you could probably really hurt some people. I suspect Corps folks never expected to see their life's story (warts and all) posted on line or in a dumpster. So...does anyone know how and where TWI keeps it's records? And DO they keep all of that old stuff? My money says they do. If so, should we be worried? JT

The ironic part of this thread to me is how many people find this type of behavior bizarre. I suspect SOME of us might have either gone along or been in agreement once upon a time? And, yes, I would have been one of them. It's probably something to feel good about. So does anyone know what exactly they DO with this information? Just before I left, we were being asked to report on suspicious folks. It was after the Galatians tapes came out and everything was being watched. That staff at HQ were doing the same thing is no surprise. There's probably a big database somewhere keeping all of this information. Hmm...that IS a scary thought. (Sorry for the stream of consciousness here...) All of those Corps papers, personal reports, etc. I bet they keep EVERYTHING. When communism fell, the problems didn't end. The government spied on everyone and when the files became public... Well, it wasn't pretty. If TWI folds, what would happen to all of the WayGB files? A LOT of people potentially could be hurt. Geez, just when you thought they might just be decaying into a bunch of old toothless loonies... JT p.s. I will put this in a separate thread as it might be a bit off topic.

What did he do to agitate her? I hadn't heard that before. TIA. JT

Curious how many are still there? Do they still have larger functions such as advances or advanced class specials? I would think they're a good indicator. Attendance numbers for them would be helpful as well. JT

Did most men know? I don't have first hand experience. Apologies if this has been covered previously.

Or the truth might be that they were full time WC and could no longer "waste" TWI money on electricity.

Good one. For me, sitting in yet another BORING meeting pretending we were "prospering" when it was PAINFULLY obvious everything was in the tank. And not being willing to go through yet another disagreement with my LC about being realistic. No growth, no excitment, etc. It felt like being in the bunker with Hitler while he believed the tide would turn any day. Sheeshh! JT

An attorney for the National Association of Douche BagS (NADS) will be contacting Paw in the morning to request a formal apology to all of their douche' bag members... JT

I thought they were down to two WC, and 200 Bless Patrol guardians. Oh, and a gaggle of lawyers. No fat there...

<Ducking behind desk to avoid shoes thrown in my direction> I was absolutely excited. It seemed like an opportunity to finally find someone who could answer my questions about the Bible. Whatever their sins (and seems like they are legion), it DID convince me I could actually understand what I read. The management/leadership/whatever of TWI caused unbelievable harm to me and my family. Ironically, TWI equipped me with enough knowledge to later see through them. However, others gave me uncountable blessings including during that class and others. Same with folks at my first Advanced Class. Because of all of them, my life is so much better. At a minimum, I learned to love God again.

If the Board followed their usual double standard... LCM likely had access to all sorts of media, books, radio, television, etc. That would have given any CURIOUS individual the opportunity to at least consider his ways. If nothing else, he owned a freakin' BIBLE! If he believed his own teachings, the Bible alone should have been enough to get him to reconsider. Focusing only on his age, VP, TWI, etc. also ignores the ability of God to work in his heart to convict him. Just my .02. JT

All, I have been an occasional poster here, hopefully contributing to the discussion. And healing. And informing, etc. So... thank you!!! It is likely that many of you know what it's like to escape Way World and rejoin real life. I don't know that I would have done it or at least as well without so many of you. God will have to repay you as I'm am not likely up to the task. JT

One has to wonder how Adam, Moses, etc. ever got along without TWI. JT

Antonym: BOD Mobile: n. Vehicle kept in pristine condition by money provided by WOWs and their recruits. Typically new model Fords which may or may not include a driver. Exterior flawless. Interior same. Rear seat may be worn as well as rear shocks. See also: Golf Cart, President's airplane, motorcoach. JT

It says the video is gone now... JT

I have to admit that blanket statements on both sides made here make me uncomfortable at times. Like most here, I had bad experiences with TWI and they did a lot to harm me. But TWI also had some of the most wonderful people to ever come into my life as well. Fellow-sufferers with God. ;) I guess when folks are dealing with hurtful subjects, not everything comes out perfectly. JT