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  1. Victor paul wierwille, NaRd., valued belief above all action (without exception, or, if you prefer, without distinction). He taught believing is something you do, faith is something you have. So, works-dependent, not faith-dependent, salvation was the foundation of his theology, doctrine, dogma. Beleeeve in four crucified, let the Greek language and the textual evidence be damned!! Just look around you today. Pay attention. Belief is the source of all division. In spite of evidence and facts and reason and logic, billions of people cling to their beliefs. Children are abused and murdered everyday because of belief. Genocide has always been justified by belief. Belief is the bedrock of theocratic fascism. (I'm feverishly resisting stepping over the precipice into politics!) Science is improved by better science. I believe something to be true until I no longer have to - until I know, until I see. I respect anyone's RIGHT to believe, but I don't have to respect WHAT they believe. Notice, the more you know, the more you question; the less you know, the easier it is to be sure of your stupid, stupid beliefs.
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  2. I want to understand what you are saying in the posts above because as of now, I see "beleef," as you call it, as being the basis of Christianity. Belief is defined as follows: Oxford Dictionary = an acceptance that a statement is true or that something exists - a firmly held opinion or conviction Cambridge Dictionary = the feeling of being certain that something exists or is true: Merriam-Webster Dictionary is very similar to the above except for its definition #3 which says “conviction of the truth of some statement or the reality of some being or phenomenon especially when based on examination of evidence. What I find noteworthy is that the word "evidence," or any form of it, is not included in the first two definitions and is used as an add-on with the third, meaning evidence is helpful but not necessary. This is important since evidence is the available body of facts indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid, and fact is a thing that is known or proved to be true. Without proven facts, a belief is subjective and is no guarantee of truth no matter how firmly held it is by someone. A child looking at a flower can hold the belief that it is a flower (which is a fact) but for the child to believe what someone taught her - that the flower is made by God, this would be holding onto a beleef since this is not a proven fact. Finally, since beleefs are not based on facts, evidence to the contrary means nothing to those who hold onto them.
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