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twi hopes to have ambassadors in the 12 countries they have active way corps. they have a long history of "believing" for certain large numbers in one program or another. i was always careful to ignore the "believing" numbers they published beforehand in the way magazine, and look at the actual numbers after an event (they didn't often put actual numbers in, but you could guess by looking at group photos). No doubt a few corps pad the numbers in some way when they pass them uphill. "Believing" often means living in fairy land. twi still has an inflated self image, still following vpw's narcissistic example they seem to be heavily promoting gunnison as a destination, mostly via various "camps." it keeps money flowing in I expect the "Christian music" at the young rock will be as regimented and programmed as anything way productions does. it seems to me everybody at twi dresses, walks and talks alike, in suits and dresses. kind of like the Agents in suits in the matrix

Do you know how Mike was helped? Because there are folks in TWI telling me the same thing, with just as little detail. Would be nice to get under that.

Trying to go from or one extreme or another is not a good idea imho. To say or prove that the pfal/twi experience was totally bad or good, is a waste of time. There was good and bad, just like most anywhere. Not much different than any other religion or cult or organization. As to the point of this thread, there were no good old days, or glory days, that are not any different than these days. There are still many people looking for answers that will be drawn to a good sounding bait and hook agenda. Started with the green card then session 1, "you have to know what is available to get anything from god", this is false, a lie and not true. And another hook to get you thinking you needed to know more.

LOL, I might find out more about being wise on 24 Dec, when I play a "wise man" in the church's nativity story.