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So_crates......... Wierwille was nearly 51 years old when he filmed this 1967 class. Clearly, thru the years......he used cunning and stealth to plagiarize from others. Often, he'd tweak paragraphs, phrases, poems, and one-liners just enough.........to hide the source. Hell........the guy even stole "The Red Thread" teaching from Oral Roberts. Much of what we saw in wierwille's foundational class and stories was ..........pre-emptive strikes. You see, wierwille was crafty.......and spent decades hiding in the shadows and hitch-hiking off other's work and reputations. IMO.......that is why the "hitch-hiker" analogy in pfal was so strikingly real. Wierwille WAS the hitch-hiker. He being a drunk......wierwille expounded on the "drunk story" and challenged all student to NOT judge. And, that he went back to his office and knelt and prayed to God that he would never teach another negative sermon......blah, blah, blah. Well?.....did he teach other negative sermons? Yep. Parlaying all this together.......heck, wierwille told us that he'd need to read it "line by line, and word for word BEFORE he would call the Great Apostle Paul a sex pervert!" WOWSERS......sex pervert? Who was even thinking that.....besides wierwille? Was THAT a pre-emptive strike.....to squelch "rumors" of wierwille's sexual predation? I think so. So......when your thread addresses this "more abundant life"..........it's a pre-emptive strike to get us to solely focus on "the more abundant life is SPIRITUAL"...... Yet, wierwille stayed on church payroll until August 1957.........never served one day on any "mission field" helping others Later, surrounded himself with harleys, motor coach, plane, bodyguards, etc. Parked his motor coach at Indy 500 to hobnob with big wigs.... Tried to entice wealthy donors and celebrities to come to hq... Exploited the way corps to work for free at every event..... Etc..... Bait-and-switch.........starts class with John 10:10.......but then, cherry-picks all over the bible to stake his claim that "the abundant life means spiritual abundance." .

ANYONE with common-sense management skills, proper discernment and empathy for others........COULD SEE that this "high-speed train" was going to derail. Imagine........year after year, you are REQUIRED to take 3 weeks leave of pay......THEN work-for-free at corps wk/roa. Then.............drive home, and have added stress at work to catch up......OR.........need to find new employment And...............if you were married and had little kids, you were separated from them (mostly) during this time Also...............what about your OWN family??......parents/siblings/nieces/nephews........reunions/weddings/funerals/birthday celebrations The corps couples who started having children............of course, parents wanted to see them and spend time with NEW GRANDBABIES The demands and restraints put upon the corps by wierwille was IN-YOUR-FACE EXPLOITATION. There was NO WAY this was going to continue.......and each year, more and more corps drifted away. Understandably !! Wierwille was a narcissistic bully.........with NO compassion or christian character. NONE. The cult was DIVIDING families............the cult was ANTI-family.

It figures. The fun has to happen while I'm out of town. Mike, nobody's kicking you off the board. You're even invited to play in the games in the "Movies, Music..." forum. (Just try to follow the rules, such as they are.) I think most people here won't begrudge nostalgia, so long as it's phrased a bit diplomatically- and, more to the point, subjectively. (I have some fond memories of time in twi, but I acknowledge that my experiences certainly weren't universal.) I'll honor the bilateral ceasefire and not get into things all over again. I will, however, point out that you're attributing hostility SOLELY to people who are reacting to nostalgia. Most of the reactions are people disagreeing with you, not people just reacting.

i say they ought to roll out the big gun

Unraveling the cult indoctrination..........is an arduous undertaking. Lots of overlapping ethics and principles.......but it takes honesty, humility, receptiveness, reflection, etc. Everything that you've been taught or experienced in the cult is suspect.......no stone should be left unturned. In the letter posted above, Melody Ann starts the unraveling process. She may or may not know it yet, but she ALREADY is working her way back to wierwille's cult structure, false teachings, and deceptive agenda: .......manmade policies and mandates / squelching the spirit of God within .......The Book of Acts does not support a headquarters type of structure with 3 or more leading the entire ministry from the top .......already, she has read the book, "The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse" .......yet, still wants recognition and approval from board members to claim *emeritus status*.........[More to unravel ---- one foot in, one foot out] .......twi became micromanagers dictating what to teach and what not to teach......[Umm, this has been going on for decades!] .......tithing – is not in the Grace Administration.........[and just wait till you start questioning wierwille's "dispensationalism" doctrine] .......no research department.......realizing that the cult leaders' positions and teachings are firmly cemented. No change is forthcoming.... The corps program was indoctrinated *followship*............NOT leadership. And, splinter groups are NOT the answer either.

Ding, Ding, Ding.............a central point of great contention surfaced! They changed the Emeritus status (a term that confers automatically upon all persons who retire at a given rank, a mark of distinguished service)......... to Retired Status and THEN, wanted them to sign up for more work. The Board of Manipulators wanted to squeeze MORE WORK out of them. Obviously, these corps who were age 60-70..........on the verge of retiring, or wanting to retire with a "distinguished service public record" and THEN FOUND OUT that the cult pulled the rug out from under them. Rosalie wanted to keep exploiting them to write more articles, do more projects, etc. etc. BOOM...............the cult reality when the curtain is pulled back. Emeritus status is only bestowed upon the favored few. .

My comments in red. More to come....... Unraveling the cult indoctrination.............

There's your............ ALL NINE ALL THE TIME

OMG!! I feel so bad. I need to go tell others to give to me so I can give to VPW so that he can give back to his own children what he took. Because if others don't give it's literally crushing the soul of the greatest giver on Earth. Somebody, not me, must do something. Because that's how giving works. *thumps chest with pride*

Grace......you might be right. As I rethink the timeline of things, I think Mrs. W died 2004 or 2005. Here on GSC, there were extensive discussions about her care.....and how Rosalie and board members moved her to nursing home. Many thought that she should have been able to stay in her own home with 24/7 nurses and healthcare professionals around her. The discussion escalated and even J.P. got involved with writing twi a lengthy letter.....and it got posted on GSC. Then, didn't Harve Plat1g as vp in twi post a one-time response? See? For the first time, twi acknowledged gsc with a response.......it spoke volumes.