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BAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!

Hes trolling.

Because you did not make an argument but rather just a narcissistic pronouncement, this message is just more quasi-intellectual bull$hit. Really Socrates is right.

Hardship and Burdens............were heaped upon corps grads and advanced class followers with each passing year. The fact that there is a 21-page (and counting) discussion on "the secret messaging of wierwille's writings" is sleight-of-hand and moot............in my opinion. The Scriptures give us explicit examples and warn us to beware of this type of deception and seduction. Words and fair speeches without confirming results are little more than intellectually theorizing intent. OMG.......wierwille could NOT do what he claimed. Not one time did I ever see him operate "the big SIX manifestations." I have posted of an incident in the BRC where he adamantly proclaimed an 8th corps guy was possessed with devil spirits.......YET, wierwille did nothing but yell, fume and stomp out. Pppfffftttt. THE REASON CORPS STARTED EXITING...............more rapidly by 1980-->.........was hardships and burdens. The burden to attend corps week and roa each year was unsustainable. Anyone with a modicum of empathy for these increasing burdens could SEE THIS. When I was in Canada as the country coordinator.......I had many of these conversations with way corps in Vancouver, B.C. and Calgary, Alberta. It was a HUGE deal to take 3-weeks off EACH YEAR for corps wk/roa. As more corps married........more pregnancies, more babies. Reality was at the front door. Corps grads needed a career path that would strengthen and sustain their families. The burdens to keep apace with the cult-mandates was escalating. Maybe, that is why I highlight the Luke 4:18 reference. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I don't care how many times someone tries to explain to me "the secret writings of wierwille"............the man was a narcissist, a drunkard, a predator and a bully. He fits every description of a "senses man" drunk on power. I loathe everything about him.......his deception, his cloak of authority, his plagiarism, his sexual predation over corps women I knew and his unrepentant wantonness. To the very end............Wierwille's Wantonness .

So many failures by veepee............. Zero Corps program........[check] Instilled "Lock-Box" teaching as a Principled Pillar.........[check] Built on a Foundation of Unaccountability to Anyone.........[check] Tried to Update Teaching/Filming of foundational class at PFAL '77........[check] No Accreditation at The Way College of Emporia...........[check] Lauding Camp Gunnison as Premier Vacation Spot and Restaurant for Way Believers...........[check] Sent out corps letters as stop-gap of hemorrhaging corps grads.............[check] The Sno-Way.......an all-terrain vehicle attempt-built by Grumelot and another Family Corps guy......[check] Putting Mantle on Martindale as 2nd prez...............hahahahahahaha.............[check] Word in Culture........Fine Arts House, "Cultural Center," High Country Caravan, etc........splat....[check] The Victors Quartet..................nothing like killing off youthful zeal..........LOL.......[check] Athlete of the Spirit terminology......---> AOS Production.........oops......[check] Corps Exploitation and Labor at corps wk/roa.........not sustainable........[check] Pharisaic Example of "Desiring to be Seen & Served".................[check] NO demonstrating God's Power to the people.......NONE............[check] Flaunting Smoking/Drinking at late night corps mtgs..............[check] Used Motor Coach for Sexual Predation..............[check] Wrecked Twig-Hopper in Ontario and silenced all to secrecy.......[check] Lies and Cover-up of Cause of Death.....CANCER...........[check] Mystique of "man of god"...........like dust in the wind........[check]

Don't know you, Mike, or when or how you were involved in TWI... but evidently (and very plainly) you didn't sit much at the feet of vpw (literally, as well as figuratively) and listen (and actually hear, or understand) much of what he said. I'd have asked that as a question... but, think you've already shown (at least some, if not most of) us the answer. As prideful, egotistical, or narcissistic (take your pick) vpw might have been, I don't believe that he ever saw or thought of himself being capable of writing on par with scripture... else he never would have allowed (or requested) anyone to touch or edit what he wrote. Obviously you never heard or paid attention to him talking about how the writers of scripture did or surely DIDN'T write them...

OMG! I guy says "read my book" and, just like that, he's like Moses on the mountaintop. How could I have missed it all these years?

I'm glad I never suffered under Pontius Wierwille. I suffered under the reign of the Dancing Prez. Burdens? My lord, when I hear what some of the early Corps got up to, I wonder how on earth you had the liberty. Practically every minute of in rez time in the 90s was buttoned down very tightly. LCM was twice the child of hell, as it were. As in this statement, by Jesus: "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you travel around on sea and land to make one proselyte; and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves." "Woe to you, Phariseeical President, VPW, hypocrite, because you travel around on sea and land to make one President; and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourself."

THIS WAS WIERWILLE'S ALL NINE ALL THE TIME...... Wierwille was a narcissist....... Grandiosity with expectations of superior treatment from other people Fixated on fantasies of power, success, intelligence, attractiveness, etc. Self-perception of being unique, superior, and associated with high-status people and institutions Needing continual admiration from others Sense of entitlement to special treatment and to obedience from others Exploitative of others to achieve personal gain Unwilling to empathize with the feelings, wishes, and needs of other people Intensely envious of others, and the belief that others are equally envious of them Pompous and arrogant demeanor

Lol....im very comfortable.

Except, ya know, he didn't really "write" PFAL. He simply plagiarized works that were already written and pawned them off as his own. Even you have conceded he "compiled" existing works.

You sound more and more like Professor Irwin Corey with each response you post.

I posit that Mike's function here is similar to that of a Russian bot. Not really to argue his alleged thesis but rather to undermine the entire purpose of GSC by way of distracting, not quite fully coherent propaganda so that lurkers get a sense of cognitive dissonance about the primary message of the website.

If you will recall, I offered you, personally, an opportunity to cite examples of how the "God Breathed" PFAL has benefited your life. As of this moment, you have not responded. May I propose that I confine my activities in the Doctrinal Forum? It's not a doctrinal matter. You have proposed the idea that PFAL is God Breathed. That's not a doctrine, it's an opinion. Thus far, you have done absolutely nothing to logically argue that point without circuitous reasoning. You just keep insisting people must believe it because you say so. Edit: My dad was fond of saying "Poop or get off the potty chair."

"the Pure Evil model of VPW that has become the central element of Greasespot Correctness." You have grossly and intentionally misrepresented the purpose of this site. An apology might be in order. "With the plagiarism charge, everything in PFAL is described as coming from good, holy, respected teachers. But then I bring out some of the PFAL material here and those same ideas suddenly become tainted by the Pure Evil model." Once again, you fail to grasp the gravity of plagiarism. Furthermore, no one has offered the premise you erroneously attribute to GSC posters in the above statement. You are free to offer any opinion of your own as long as you attribute it to yourself. Please stop misrepresenting the opinions of other posters.

HERE is Tic, working at his part time job as Wierwille's valet.

"Dodge, distract, challenge right back, but never admit an error is an error." Never let it be forgotten that THIS is how Mike deals with a challenge. These are HIS words. And he hasn't changed one bit. Talk about a standard ploy!