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I'm not going to pretend the continuance of the splinters over decades is a good thing. However, nearly everyone I ever met who was in twi as a regular has moved on- and they jumped from twi to a splinter group, then drifted off entirely from the splinter group sooner or later. So, to pull numbers out of the air with no claim to accuracy, if 3% of twi is still in twi, and another 7% is running or attending splinter groups, and 80% joined splinter groups then left, then the splinter groups were good for the 80% even if they're bad for the 7% remaining. (Not counting the other 10% who just walked off by themselves without stopping in a splinter group.) In attendance, twi and the splinters are running a zero-sum game. Neither is bringing in attendees as a net gain- splinters bring in ex-twi one way or another. With neither twi nor the splinters bringing in enough people to replace the ones that leave voluntarily or die of old age (a few people joining means the numbers still trickle downwards), the problem of both is self-correcting in the long run. Each "one true household" will dwindle down to one household, and eventually one elderly person pontificating by himself/herself to a circle of empty chairs. In the meantime, yes, that's not good news to the aging folk who choose to remain in their splinters, but they're adults and can make their own choices. It's not like they haven't been warned. How hard is it to find us and other opposing viewpoints if one is trying?

For those who missed it, Vespers Chimes Hour Caravan was another Christian radio show with Christian music and a sermon. It was neither the first, nor the last, and Christian radio to this day has Christian music, sermons, and Christian music with sermons. If it sounds NOTHING like twi to you, that's because it WAS nothing like twi. With Vespers Chimes, vpw plagiarized sermons off of Christian writers here and there whom he was editing. In twi, vpw plagiarized entire classes and programs, mostly from a handful of writers like EW Bullinger and JE Stiles, and did so right after he plagiarized BG Leonard's class in its entirety (yes, he taught the entire class as his own, a few months after taking it.) The twi experience really began when vpw went to the Groovy Christians who were already successful Christians, and fooled some of them into thinking he was some great one, using the work of Leonard, Bullinger, etc. He turned them into the recruiting arm of twi, and those of us with positive experiences in twi can trace them all from the influence of THOSE Christians, not the canned classes vpw ripped off. So, Vespers Chimes Hour Caravan had nothing whatsoever in common with twi except that vpw was supposedly running one, then the other. To claim one is a continuation of the other is blatantly dishonest- and twi being dishonest should come as no surprise anymore. vpw claimed it was the same, and vpw being dishonest should come as no surprise anymore. If you tell the most blatant, dishonest lie in the world enough times, some people will start to believe it-which has probably been made into a motivational sign hanging up somewhere in twi.

Yeah.......depending on the splinter group "LEADERSHIP", the splinter can have all the markings of mother-cult, or worse! Once on payroll.....with perks, power over others, dominance, adulation, and a subset world of their choosing......the splinter group leaders do NOT want to relinquish their positions of power. Who has seen any splinter group leaders who were altruistic? John Lynn? Gerald Wrenn? Dale Sides? John Schoenheit? And now, in May 2017.......along comes this "Revival and Restoration" group. I seriously doubt that these folk will garner much of a following......as they squabble over who goes on payroll, guidelines and path forward. The cult's DNA will poison this little subset group as well. The internet and social media is debunking the splinter group methodology to Christian service. Enuff said.

How hard is it to find GSC and other opposing viewpoints if John Lynn [or fill in the blank of splinter group leader] is still SINGING WIERWILLE'S PRAISES and DECEIVING others with weekly teachings? Or, pressuring people to sign up for Momentus and its gut-spilling public confessions? Maybe, hobnob with CFF and the wierwille kids.....and then, venture out to Mississippi and get drawn into S.O.W.E.R.S. and learn from the likes of a Walter Cummins? My point..........these hirelings and deceivers make it harder to exit from the wierwille-cult indoctrination. In my opinion..........Paul Allen blazed a trail with Waydale and then, GreaseSpot Café took the baton and broke the stranglehold, not Shroyer, Clapp, Finnegan, Panarello, etc. etc. Many of us have had our share of disagreements with several who've come to this site STILL siding with "the good ole days" when wierwille walked the earth. Just when you'd think that these splinters have run their course........ANOTHER ONE pops up. Why? What gives? And further, every splinter seemingly wants to hitch its wagon to the wierwille legacy......whatever that is. Then, two of the wierwille namesake, J.P. and Sara, join forces with the CFF-outfit.......Kevin quits his job as an architect rallying to wife's [Sara] ambitions at CFF and J.P. helps spearhead the S.O.W.E.R.S. operation as his son, victor paul, becomes the face of way corps training II. OMG.........could the cult splinter groups devise a more incestuous relationship to deceive others??? Money. Vanity. Deception. Lording over others. What are the reasons for all of these splinter groups? Sure........they ALL want to help others. Pppffffttttt. Even that Corps Website......you couldn't badmouth wierwille or corps training. When Paul Allen got bumrushed off twi's grounds.........he did something TOTALLY DIFFERENT than all other "helpful splinter groups." Paul set up Waydale to strategically and systematically attack The Way International doctrine AND craig martindale. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

Disciplines the mind by a wooden spoon; the "spoonings" will cease when your believing improves.

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IMO the splinter groups serve a valuable purpose as splinters of a shipwreck, from which their nickname comes. Like I said, I know a family Corpse who left in the '80's, and has done basically a Wierwille adulation home family fellowship for 20 years. Actually there's another guy like that on the site here that rob - pilot guy, right? Worshiped Wierwille and studied collaterals for 20 years then has been posting here. And we are talking middle of the road types of groups here. When you get down to the worse "splinters" we are talking Victor Barnard and River Road Fellowship. Dateline stuff. So sure if someone wants to float around in the ocean attached to a piece of wood for 20 years, then you could call that an "airlock". But my advice, don't paddle past 3 islands and 2 rescue ships in the process of clinging to that piece of driftwood.