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As Waysider said - what wierwille did to folks was in NO way petty. Sorry to take offense at you suggesting folks leave vengeance to some higher power - ha ! AS IF folks revealing all the lies, manipulation, plagiarism, sexual molestations, and misrepresentations made by wierwille could EVER inflict all the punishment that turd really deserves! Save the pious platitudes for some cheesy sugarcoated supposedly "Christian " website. No...you miss the point of Grease Spot entirely !!! It's to tell the other side of the story...not the cheesy sugarcoated self-righteous propaganda wierwille and the way international pumped out to adoring fans - NO -- NOT that story.... Grease Spot tells the OTHER side of the story - the dark underbelly of the beast....aka a brood of vipers....whited sepulchers...Pharisees who search far and wide to win a single convert to make them twice as evil as they are (Matt. 23:15). Grease Spot answers the call of duty for those who were in the wierwille cult - who now want to warn others who might get sucked in - or to help those who got sucked in get out ! This is not vengeance - it's more along the lines of danger warnings and rescue work. NO WHERE in the Bible - - I repeat, NO WHERE in the Bible are we instructed to look the other way and be silent when false prophets try to ply their trade.

Thanks DWBH.......... Seeing all the wierwille and geer schit that has hit the fan thru the years..........I'd be more inclined to side with Curtis and Knupp than the sociopaths and narcissists, wierwille and geer. The drambuie king and paranoid busdriver were shysters and con men with not an ounce of empathy for others.......

Summarized version: Nothing and nobody was ever quite good enough to satisfy "leadership".

Thanks DWBH....... When ole wierwille went on a rampage about how phucked up Europe and Africa was.......did he give any specific? Hells Bells......the SAME THING was said about the USA way corps in 1986 by geer, two years later. Looking back on all this crap........wierwille and geer were dirty, lying, manipulating scoundrels. Anything and everything wierwille claimed......is highly suspect. The guy was a bully and a fraud. Any narcissist can bark orders, stomp out of a room.......and go back to his booze.

"Then, dictor went on a rampage about international outreach, especially in Europe and Africa. He said that Geer was digging up all sorts of garbage on how phucked up Europe was, and that he (Geer) would now be made European Outreach Coordinator and European Corpse Coordinator as soon as the deal was done on the location, which turned out to be Gartmore. That's when we all figured out what happened with Beence and Bo. When POP blew up in April, 1986, I had to send Pat Hughes and Randy Feese to St. Mary's, where finnegan was in a suicidal ideation episode, because so much in POP was about how vinny and Gary Curtis had screwed up Europe and Africa. Geer read it at the special corpse meeting he called. He named names including, Don and Howard, Da forehead, finnegan, Gary Curtis, Tom Knupp, Gary Frederick and the IO staff, and others. That's what kicked off finnegan's "suicide run". Finnegan regained his composure and became a staunch geerite from that moment on. " =========================================================== That explains a lot. Specifically, for me...... Some time around early 1990, Geer put out "A Pivot Point in History", a 3-part tape set that claimed God was not All-Knowing, and did so in easy-to-refute claims and justifications. When I finally spoke to VInce about it, VInce (who should have figured it out LONG before I did since I heard about it several months later and by accident) used a half-@$$ed attempt to AGREE with it, and was only interested in me not going around discussing it with people. He wasn't interested in whether or not it was TRUE. He was interested in everyone saying the same thing. Was probably not that hard, for that matter- my Territory Coordinator at the time was parroting the same non-answers as everyone else. ("What God knows, He knows. What God doesn't know, He doesn't know.") I was actually preparing to mail little packets of crackers to people I'd heard parrot that sort of thing if I heard them do it again. (In the case of the Territory guy, he started to back off on the subject and it sounded like he was trying hard not to outright say he completely disagreed with it, so I never did mail it or hand him any. I was delighted.) But that explains why Vince didn't sweat whether it was true, only that everyone got with the party line. If I'd realized that sooner, I'd not have bothered my other attempts to get Vince to think outside the party line (no, I'll leave that one private.)

Chock, I didn't like Miami Vice, but I hated it when the show ended. I loved the car featured in the opening scenes. Not seeing that beautiful, Italian car every week really ticked me off!!

Yeah.....twi kept MOVING the goal posts. Once inresidence....the game of endurance begins. Read Dale Carnegie books, memorize the list of sales techniques, learn a bunch of ludicrous 'memory pegs,' blocks of classes to attend, assigned to a twig and a certain branch, a 4 hr/day work group, a branch responsibility, dorm assignments, attend early morning teachings - 5:20am, respond to any 'red alerts' or fire drills, or wierwille's arrival, etc. etc. Once you graduate....the game continues. The field/staff corps assignments have uniquely different rules, but the oversight and confrontation goes on. One is monitored by reports, by leadership, by corps meetings attendance, by class attendance, by the yearly pilgrimage to corps week/roa, etc. The goal posts keep moving.......enough is never enough. No corps exits twi gratiously. Twi will not allow it. Highly respected corps get trashed the most......to instill fear, to stifle questioning, damage control cult-style. <_<

I was about to say that I believe the hitchhiking was the most dangerous of all. I heard of women getting raped while hitchhiking to LEAD. I also heard a guy was killed while hitchhiking. I guess he tried to run across the freeway to retrieve his wallet and was killed in front of his wife.

VP (You know he wasn't really a doctor, don't you?) Wierwille wanted them to HAVE it.He just didn't want them to USE it. I learned how to sprout Mung Beans and make my own salad dressing. :(

very well summed up, oldskool. i was in the 9th - i think you were in one of the 20s i wanted to be more -- i wanted to help people -- i bought the BS the way corps program f'd me up i met some nice people -- glad i did some of my sponsors said "don't change" thank you for sharing erkjohn :)