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Grace, you're ok in my book...just keep being who you are.....Even though Grease Spot is a cyber-world and at times we all can get on each other's nerves - I still prefer this wonderful divergency any day over that homogenized sugarcoated phoniness of TWI.

Speaking of idols - here's a little ditty about TWI's favorite idol....to the tune of The Carpenter's "close to you" Why do turds suddenly appear Every time wierwille's near Just like pee, they long to be A WASTE of time

T-Bone, thank you!! I think I have a "healthy attitude" in most aspects of my life, but sometimes I get upset with some of the posts I read. However, I know that many of us here at the GSC, had vastly different experiences with TWI. Some of us had good, and bad experiences with it; some of us got messed over by TWI, and may never recover from it. I really learn a lot by coming here; there is a lot of good information here. However, I also realize that not everyone thinks like I do; I think there has to be some give-and-take in a forum like this. But, I try to think before I post. Some axxhole hurt my feelings over some petty BS; I pray that I don't do that to others. But, I must admit coming here as been an eye-opener for me. I didn't know how corrupt TWI was until I came here; wow! As I continue to post, and learn, I continue to heal, in all areas of my life. Again T-Bone, thank you for your kind post! Shalom!

Way, I think you are right. However, I think that admitting I was duped, or scammed, is the first step in solving the problem. I think some of the people who still cling to TWI, will NEVER admit to it being a huge scam. Perhaps they will die, thinking VPW was a great man of God. Personally, I would want to know the truth about VPW, and TWI, as painful as it has been. Way, when I first started to learn what really happened in Way World, all those years ago, I was angry, sad, and embarrassed, that I had given so much of my youth, and money to such a wicked organization. But, as painful as it has been knowing the truth about TWI, I have been able to deal with it, even though it has been hard to do so. Even today, I am still learning about about some of the former leadership of TWI, that makes me deeply ashamed, that I ever held some of them in such high regard. But, I am learning that I can change my beliefs, and God still loves me, and He is pleased with me.

My personal hypothesis is that people are too embarrassed to admit they were duped so, by denying the truth of the matter, they sidestep that problem.

If it doesn't make sense...stick around for a couple of years....it will ! == == == == Who needs the keys to biblical research....we just break in !

Ham, !

Ham, good post! Who knew you were a poet!

Act2, great post! Very, clever!!

Skyrider , Having followed online the solar eclipse yesterday I was struck by your topic....in my opinion the reverence for wierwille DOES eclipse the gospel of Jesus Christ.. .recalling the mindset I had for 12 years - I think it was whatever spiritual hunger I had to know Jesus Christ (I've mentioned before of my calling out for him during a bad acid trip - and later signing up for the class because I assumed it was a smart follow - an answered prayer if you will) ...that attracted me to wierwille/PFAL - but now I tend to think of any mention of Jesus Christ and all things Christian in PFAL were just window dressing- to get you in the PFAL store. But whatever sliver of my savior's light I was able to glimpse behind the umbra of wierwille's ego seemed to shrink year after year...how sad.... Well, to end my post on a good note - I'm still a Christian and intent on avoiding any other idolatrous eclipses.