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Not sure that I believe we only get rewards at the bema. There are rewards in this life too. Restoring the years that the locust has eaten isn't a promise for a future life or wherever - it may be, but it also means in this present life. Our lives should demonstrate God's faithfulness to His promises. Did God not reward Job's faithfulness openly, right there and then? Many OT examples. The gospels speak of this, too. For myself, I think the reward of peace of mind, joy in God's love, enjoying the fellowship of like-minded Christian friends, are all part of our "now" reward. Nice is there is something later;meantime, I'll enjoy the rewards (fruit of the spirit) now. Those frauds at TWI can't enjoy "fruit" rewards - their "rewards" are limited to Gal 5:19-21 only.

Twinky.......I don't regard telling my story as "a part of my repentance." I regard this story, Insanity on Steroids......as a warning about cult manipulation and involvement.

I still stand by this, my earlier post. And I think that the tell-all stories from Pen, KK, Kristen Stewart, Sky, etc are a part of their own cleansing and a part of their repentance, and in large part a way to help communities (including online) understand and heal. I would like to think that in their own ways they are also active in helping the physical communities around them. There are many ways to do that, only some of which involve church- or religious-based activities.

TWI taught that believers receive only rewards at the bema. However, a part of Scripture they conveniently forget is where we all stand before the judgment seat of God. No hell-fire, our incorruptible seed guarantees that ... BUT I do know enough about God and His Word to know that there will be eternal justice for all the things they have done during this life that were done in secret. Nothing is secret from God ... they will pay when the time comes .. at the hand of God, not man. That is a comfort to me concerning not just TWI leadership, but others who have done wrong with no remorse.

Exactly preach say it again

Thanks waysider..... Can't imagine how others, if they ever heard about this, would want to send abs-money to fund this.... Maybe this added information will help one more person decide to leave that cult.

He won't get that much from social security. That's close to the maximum amount anyone can possibly receive. (Currently, the max is about $2600/month) In order to do that, he would have needed to earn the maximum amount for at least 35 years. (The current 35 year max is somewhere around $127,000 per year.) Most average recipients get somewhere around $1200-$1500 per month. In addition, he will have a tax liability if his individual annual income exceeds about $25,000 ($32,000 for joint filing). Aside from that, I totally get the point you are making. Source: Those numbers are approximations of the amounts found on the official GVT. site.

ADD........... It wouldn't surprise me in the least if martindale had a LIFETIME twi-issued credit card.........travel, gas expense, etc. Martindale had access to twi's in-house medical doctor. Probably given twi-funded psychologist......as well. And, probably..........twi funded their youngest daughter's college tuition. Martindale worked stints at Bally's & UPS........to supplement his income. Now, at age 68........if he draws monthly social security, say $2,400 per month = $28,800 a year $60,000 + $28,800 = $ 88,800 PER YEAR for life.....................and all of the hidden perks. Not too shabby for a guy who should have done prison time. .

If there were no GS then there would be one less resource for people to recover from the negative impact of the Way International. One of my relatives has a rare disease, OT - tremors. There are only a handful of people diagnosed with this disease across the world. She had great deliverance over the course of the last couple years when these folks got together and shared their stories, they even had a retreat. Hearing similar stories helped her to adjust to her disease, feel not alone, and since the two meetings she talks about them a great deal. Just seeing another human adjust to the condition and live a 'normal' life helped her so much. Like her, we who have experienced TWI also have a rare disease. I will be the first to admit I am damaged from it. The experiences there have affected aspects of my entire life into today. There aren't many people in public that can relate to me regarding this experience. it affects a lot in my life. I could ignore, that, suppress that, or admit it and heal and adjust. But admit it or not, my 'normal' life is a lot like my relative trying to adjust. To me the real heroes of The Way International experience are not the ones in lofty places, with condescending attitudes, being installed with pomp and ceremony into the highest offices of the organization that is growing less relevant every year. Not those who bury their heads in the sand, "thinking no evil" like the 3 monkey statue shows. Not those who use others to advance themselves. Not the enablers. No, the real heroes of The Way International are found on these pages. Those who tell the truth. Those who expose the lies, the control, the manipulation. Those who share real life drama about escape and adjustment. Those who say what everyone is thinking in the audience but are afraid to express to anyone - yes the STS sucks. Like every Way production. Boring, read teachings, whitewashed messages, all lies. The truth is what happens behind closed doors, where they are meeting out of fear. If you want to see a real hero from the Way experience, go look in the mirror. It's you. You survived. You told the truth. You, my friends on Greasespot, are the true heroes, not the moral midget being installed as President or any of his Pharisee buddies. Or any of the various hucksters selling versions of lies for their own profit. You are the true heroes. Even if you're damaged like me.